Why honour killing for girls only why not for boys

[Ms Verma]

Dear Gurjar Brothers ,

Why girls are killed for marrying boys of other caste and why not boys are killed by their parents for marrying girls of other caste?
Why honour killing for girls only why not for boys also ?
WHY WHY

Lets have an open & healthy debate on this topic.

[Krishan Kumar Gurjar - Lohmod]

Dear Ms. Verma Ji,

I agreed that the sisters may ask this question to us
But oh ! my dear sister, a girl in a family / (in our community) is the sign of DEVI, INTEGRITY, RESPECT, LOVE, HONOR, ESTEEM etc.

but the boys have no value opposite to sisters

If a boy did something wrong it defame the family only but if a girl do something like this it defame the hole community due to as said above.

Moreover when a gurjar boy do a intercaste marrige people don't ask question to the Sister but if a girl eloped , the society make him difficult to live.

If a boy do intercast marrige the gurjar blood remains in Gurjars but if a girl do the same it passed to the otherones ??

If you will look in the past?

When Raavan picked Sita with force, Lord Rama killed Raavan in Ramayana and abdicated Devi Sita too, to keep his honor in the Society ( and that Rama, the Lord is still worship by the people)

If Rama had not done this will he be worshiped ?

At the time of Mughals, they forced Hindus to marry the Mughal Emprore, why did'nt they married their ladies to Hindus ?



There is lots of things but I can't post.

Oh My Dear Sister ! I don't want to hurt your feelings, Just expressing my views

[Ms Verma]

Dear Gurjar Brother,

HONOUR KILLING IS FOR GIRLS ONLY CAUSE..!![/color]

Our respectable society is MALE DOMINANT society. People in our commnuity are fine if boy choose intercaste marriage but their blood start boling if a girl even think about it.
Its shows our system nothing but BIASED,FAKE, HYPOCRITE & NO EQUALITY based have different rules for different sex.

The way our system works is also one of the prominent reason for ELOPEMENT CASES of YOUNG LADIES in our community.
There is another thought...
""If a boy did something wrong it defame the family only but if a girl do something like this it defame the hole community""
""If a boy do intercast marrige the gurjar blood remains in Gurjars but if a girl do the same it passed to the otherones""
""a girl in a family / (in our community) is the sign of DEVI, INTEGRITY, RESPECT, LOVE, HONOR, ESTEEM etc.but boys have no value opposite to girls””
(excuses..............excuses)
(I am used to heard this on every day of my life from people have negative and regressive thinking.)
Above all is nothing simply rubbish.

I don’t know but WHY society FAME or DEFAME solemnly depend on few girls behaviour/actions?? WHY??
Is our society/community is SO WEAK that it couldnot burden few girls IMMATURE behaviour??
Hmmmmm…….

Devi,Love,Respect...all words....I dont know how many girls really know these words in real ??
Why ,when a girl do intercaste marriage have BOYCOTT/killed from society not the same for boys ??
Where is the EQUALITY MAN ?? and why not ??
Why there are not the same rules for both sex ?? If there is HONOUR killing for girls so have to be for boys also.

#Mughals____No words, only MUGHALS were D***M and SS***** . (sorry for my rude words)

#Lord Ram___He did what was right and I think everyone at his place must had/will have done same(even a commoner).


Regards
Ms. Verma

P.S ::

As I have mentioned before, members are free to hold extreme views and express them. So I am.
No personal attacks only expressing views .
I know I am rude in expressing my views so I apologised.
Hopefully a healthy and rational discussion will take place and the group will reach a beneficial result.

@ Lohmod Bhai…. You didn’t hurt my feelings & I respect your views. But I must say I was bit of surprise ..thats all.

[sakshichaudhary]

Dear Ms Verma .... this is nt the problem with our society solely , it's a problem of everywhere around.
You must hv heard "problem is not that we have so much bad people around instead problem is that Good people tends to be quiet on bad people's behavior".
N dear Krishan ur views made it very clear that u r proud for whatever being done.
I'm neither supporting with the girl's decision nor his parents action. Agar ladki ne galti ki to uske gharwalon ne b koi naam ya inaam ka kaam nahi kiya. N Mr Krishan if u really think that by killing the Girls (especially) u can bring name & fame then i would like to tell u that First we are Indians , citizen of a democratic country where everyone is free for own choices but not to kill anyone.
So now u can better judge who is actually defaming. & one more thing marrying a inter caste boy Girl myt have defamed the community but by killing a human his brother defamed the Humanity.

[Ms Verma]

@ Ms. Choudhary
completely agree with you........Well said !!!!
Dear keep posting your views.

Regards
Ms. Verma

[Nikita Gurjar]

Agree with Sakshi. Girls are being treated as Devis just to tame them. Traditional gujjars want to restrain their daughters inside their house. They are not allowed to go to regular colleges in most cases, while there brothers are going overseas to continue higher education.

I know that the step taken by the girls in Wazirpur case was certainly not right. But what about 1000s of gujjar girls from middle class semi modern families? Do you think that their parents would allow them to get married by their wish (if they try to convince their parents and not try to run away).

[Krishan Kumar Gurjar - Lohmod]

Dear Nikita Shakshi Verma,

Sister,

I think my post did't suprise you, It hurt you -Again I apploligies for the same.

Sister verma, I think you must have burnt your one bottle of blood while writing the above post and you are taking it is a personal am sure

I want to post but will not as it will hurt you and you will restart the PANIPAT ki ladai type of post ( The red-blue-black)


Don't take it personal, just chill and keep smiling! be happy! I am not going to post it anymore !

Take care !

[sakshichaudhary]

yep Krishan is right ..... relax girls n be happy.
So what if girls are not allowed to study n brothers in spite of failing thousands times goin abroad (in most cases on the basis of money & power)........ jus chill & keep smiling.
so what if girl is being killed to marry of her own choice & boys are supported by their family even if they rape a girl...... jus chill & keep smiling
so what if a boy is having x-marital affair & torturing his wife & on complaining girls are insisted to spent her life like hell in same family with teh same devil FOR THE SAKE OF SO CALLED NAME & FAME ............ jus chill & keep smiling
in nut shell no matter what .... girls are suppose to be phlegmatic & be smiling always.
I'm agree & all my sweetheart sis there must be agreed that we are unique & the most beautiful creature of God. So Veneration & acumen will always remain our forte. But yeah we'll make sure that we don't allow anyone to bring disrepute or any harm to our Dignity.
I guess we shall drop this discussion here only , all we need to put our words into action & instead of arguing with the GENTLEMAN of our society , try to help as more girls as we can in their studies . aur b kuch nahi to kam se kam vo ijjat k saath khushi se to jiye. Cuz aap sab ne to dekha hi hoga ... kya haalat hai ladkiyon ki villages mein.

No offence .... jus my thoughts.

Warm Regards
Sakshi Chaudhary

[Ashok Harsana]

I Hope the last few posts didnt imply to get this thread closed.

There is a hairline difference between Argument and discussion.
I want you guys to take part in a healthy discussion rather than getting into the mud slinging argument.

An argument doesn't lead to any results, but a discussion does. Here we should understand that being rigid about your thoughts is also the part of an argument. Many members are acting to be rigid on this particular thread.

Krishan Bhai: "There is nothing called "Honour Killing" in this modern world. Killing is an offence and it should not (In no case) be praised.

Ms Verma and Sakshi Jee: Everyone in this word has a unique brain and hence possess unique thoughts and mentality. You can not make others think the way you think.
Though I agree upon most the points you girls laid here (and you seem to closely understand the situation of females in gujjars), but you still need to understand that the kind of inequality which you discussed does not persist among Gujjars only

Nikita Gurjar Good to see you posting on my forum, How is the weather in Pune these days?
Anyways, You will have to believe that there are around 150 Gujjar families In delhi NCR, who sent their daughters to UK, USA and Australia for studying. I have a list which I complied the other day. I know many Gujjar girls, who study in Delhi university and their family allow them to make male friends, wear trendy dresses etc. Apart from that we have 1000 of girls got married to their BFs (obviously intercaste marriage) with their parents' wish and are living happily today.

So that means, its not about Gujjars, its about the Indian society and mentality which discriminate on the basis of gender.
Gujjars are not the exceptions, they are behaving in accordance with the society.

To see the other (brighter) face of our community, You may refer to the gujjars living in Canada and US (There are around 2,50,000 gujjars in US and canada.)

Thread is still open, anyone seeking healthy discussion (with NO personal Attacks) is welcome to share views.

Best Regards

[Ms Verma]

Lohmod Bhai,

"burnt one bottle of blood,restart the PANIPAT ki ladai type of post ( The red-blue-black)"(hmmmm.... )

HAHAHAHAHAHA .... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Areeee bhai ji......Belive me I didnt mean anything....your replies didnt hurt me at all....the way you write,its awesome.
Regarding PANIPAT fight....I think sister have every right to fight or argue with his brother..right ?

And what it this......"I am not going to post it anymore...( )

Pleasssssssse keep posting bhai....


regards
Ms. Verma

P.S: I didnt meant to hurt anyone ...if I did,I apologise.