Jagdev Parmar

[aps]

Many members of the forum asked me about Jagdev Parmar whose folktales are very popular among Gujjars.
During my research I found the following information about him.

Jagdev was the younger son of Udayaditya Parmar. Udyaditya was younger brother of Bhoja, the Bhoja of Dhar of Parmar subclan of Gujjars. After Bhoja Udayditya was next ruler of Gujjar Parmar clan. Though Jagdev was selected by his father to be the next ruler of Dhar but he willingly offered the throne to elder brother Narvarman.

Jagdev was married to a Gujjar Solanki princess. He reduced the Hoysala rulers of Dwarsamudra ( in present day Karnataka) to subjugation for the Gujjar Solankis, the family of his in laws.

His descendents are found in District Saharan Pur, Yamunanagar and Pakistan today. His services were utilised to take control of this route to Kabul, called Uttarapath in those days.

Vigraha Raj Chauhan, also known as Beesal Dev , a celebrated Gujjar ruler was married in to his family and Gujjars were able to take control of Kabul but Lahore remained in possession of the descendents of Mehmud, a turkic slave dynasty of Arabs.

Prithvi Raj Chauhan was the last Gujjar ruler of this celebrated Chauhan gotra of Gujjars.

Gopal was the the illegitimate son of him who was made Governor of Ajmer but he was expelled from there by the younger brother of Prithviraj, named Hariraj. Later Gopal, written as Gola (illegitimate son of the rulers) by Ferrista was made Governor of Ranthambore fort by another ruler named Kutubdin Aibak another ruler of this turkic slave dynasty.

[Ashok Harsana]

Jan 13, 2013 22:30:51 GMT 5.5 aps said:

Vigraha Raj Chauhan, also known as Beesal Dev , a celebrated Gujjar ruler was married in to his family and Gujjars were able to take control of Kabul but Lahore remained in possession of the descendents of Mehmud, a turkic slave dynasty of Arabs.

AP Bhai,

It was VishalDev Chauhan and not Vigrah Raj who was called BisalDev.

[aps]

Jan 14, 2013 13:07:54 GMT 5.5 Ashok Harsana said:

Jan 13, 2013 22:30:51 GMT 5.5 aps said:

Vigraha Raj Chauhan, also known as Beesal Dev , a celebrated Gujjar ruler was married in to his family and Gujjars were able to take control of Kabul but Lahore remained in possession of the descendents of Mehmud, a turkic slave dynasty of Arabs.

AP Bhai,

It was VishalDev Chauhan and not Vigrah Raj who was called BisalDev.

Dear Ashok,
The subject of my post was to clear about the query about Jagdev Parmar.
However to clear your doubt see the follwing: at page 450.

Har Bilas Sarda (Diwan Bahadur) - 1941
Stone inscriptions dated 27th November, 1153 A. D. Margshirsh sudi 5, S. 1210) of Emperor Vigrahraj IV (Visaldeva) in the ... the Chauhan genealogy from king Samant Raj to Someshwara, and throws light on the reigns of Arnoraj, Vigrahraj ...

[Ashok Harsana]

Thanks for clearing my confusion.

Regards

[rajagurjar]

Hi to all my Gurjars brothers and sisters.

brother Vij i need your help on a topic which has started between myself and a person from a different caste.
can you please give me your email address i need to ask you a few questions.

or you can contact me on mine which is
[e-mail]

I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
raja gurjar

[rajagurjar]

Hi to all my gurjar brothers.

brother vij seems to be busy as he has not yet responded to my last post, brother ashok and ap singh ji can i get your email address as i need to ask you some thing asap.

please email me on [e-mail]
that way your email address wont be made public.

thank you

[aps]

Link: www.jagran.com/delhi/new-delhi-city-11060906.html
रोहतक में गुर्जर प्रतिहार राजाओं की टकसाल के प्रमाण मिले
Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:57 PM (IST)
वी.के.शुक्ला, नई दिल्ली
भारतीय पुरातत्व सर्वेक्षण को हरियाणा के रोहतक के गाव बोहर माजरा के पास एक प्राचीन टीले की खुदाई में गुर्जर प्रतिहार राजाओं के समय की टकसाल होने के प्रमाण मिले हैं। टकसाल से सिक्के बनाने के सांचे व अन्य चीजें मिली हैं। इन पर अंकित चित्रों ने पता चला है कि यह टकसाल राजा मिहिर भोज व विग्रह पाल आदि के समय की हैं। इसके अलावा उस समय के बर्तनों के अवशेष भी प्राप्त हुए हैं। ऐसा माना जा रहा है कि ये सांचे व बर्तन 7वीं सदी से लेकर 8वीं सदी के बीच के हैं। एएसआइ का कहना है कि टीले से मिले अवशेषों का अध्ययन किया जाएगा। उसके बाद ही विस्तार से इस बारे में जानकारी मिल सकेगी।
रोहतक निवासी प्रो.मनमोहन कुमार के माध्यम से एएसआइ को सूचना मिली थी कि वहां एक टीले की खुदाई में कुछ प्राचीन चीजें निकल रही हैं। जो देखने में ऐतिहासिक लग रही हैं। इस पर एएसआइ के अतिरिक्त महानिदेशक डॉ. बीआर मणि व वरिष्ठ पुरातत्वविद् इंद्रधर द्विवेदी रविवार को रोहतक के गांव माजरा गए थे। जहां से वह टीले के बचे हुए भाग से जो अवशेष एकत्र कर लाए, उनमें सिक्के (मुद्रा) बनाने वाले सांचे शामिल हैं। इन सांचों पर अलग-अलग धुंधले चित्र नजर आते हैं। जो संभवत: अलग-अलग किस्म के सिक्कों के रहे होंगे। सिक्के बनाने के लिए धातु को गरम कर जिन बर्तनों में रखा जाता था, उन बर्तनों के अवशेष भी प्राप्त हुए हैं। एएसआइ का कहना है कि वहां पर एक स्थान पर सिक्के बनाने का कार्य किया जाता था। इसी प्रकार उस समय के मिट्टी के बर्तन के अवशेष प्राप्त हुए हैं।
खुदाई में ख्रत्म हो गया टीला
डॉ. मणि कहते हैं कि यह सांचे ऐतिहासिक धरोहर हैं। जो बोहर माजरा में टकसाल होने का प्रमाण देते हैं। जिस टीले की खुदाई में ये प्रमाण मिले हैं, उस टीले के अधिकतर भाग की खुदाई हो चुकी है। टीले के स्थान पर सरकारी प्रोजेक्ट प्रस्तावित है। अब वहां पर संरक्षित करने के लिए कुछ नहीं बचा है। एएसआइ ने जो अवशेष वहां से प्राप्त किए हैं उन्हें संरक्षित कर रखा जाएगा तथा इनका विस्तार से अध्ययन कराया जाएगा।

[vickyy]

Jan 14, 2013 13:07:54 GMT 5.5 Ashok Harsana said:

Jan 13, 2013 22:30:51 GMT 5.5 aps said:

Vigraha Raj Chauhan, also known as Beesal Dev , a celebrated Gujjar ruler was married in to his family and Gujjars were able to take control of Kabul but Lahore remained in possession of the descendents of Mehmud, a turkic slave dynasty of Arabs.

Admin... pata nahi aap kya baat kar rahe hain....... par jagdev parmar , gujjar nahi the balki parmar vanshi rajput the..... woh usi kul mai hue the jis kul mai  raja bharatri aur raja vikramaditya hue aur woh bhi parmar vanshi rajput the



unhi ek kul mai raja vakpati hue hain jinko shrest rajput keh kar unhi ke darbar ke kaviyo ne sambodhit kiya hai.......... isi baat ka jikr prithviraj raso mai bhi hai ....... jaha parmaro ko agni vanshi rajput kaha gaya hai.......... aap chahe to wikipedia par bhi padh sakte hain..............



aap ke iss bare jo bhi vichaar ho mujhe please bataye........... mai aapko e aur baat bata dena chahata hoon ki yeh to vishv vikhyat hai ki aakhri hindu samrat prithvuraj chauhan ek rajput shashak the phir aap unhe gujjar kaise keh sakte hain........................


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[Ashok Harsana]

Dear Vicky or whatever your real name is (no offense as many Rajputs have been writing to this forum previously with fake IDs),

Do you really believe in PrithviRaj Raso, which is not at all a historical book. It is better known as a praise work by Bard Chandra. Moreover, if you believe in this scientifically advanced age that people can be born out of fire pits then only God can help you.

Please get your facts correct and please don't cite useless references like Wikipedia and Prathiraj Raso. Please read what is being taught in the history classes of IAS coaching centers. I attended a few of these classes during 2004 to 2009, where I was taught by almost every history teacher that Rajputs was a confederation of various rulers which later connected their pedigrees to ancient Kshatriyas with the help of their local bards.

Please feel free to write to me for further clarifications of the facts.

Regards

[shivkantsinghgujar]

Dear vicky,
I can't assure you regarding the fact that jagdev parmar was gurjar or not, but can certainly give you a concrete proof that chouhans of ajmer where gurjars and descended from chechi gotra of gurjars, just check this wikipedia document out...... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajmer
and even after reading this you have any doubt then go and see this link and try to get access to this "the imperial gazetteer of india" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imperial_Gazetteer_of_India