The Question Why? about Gujjars

[aps]

Why The Gujjars don't have a regiment in India

All the Arab records of medieval period state that the Gurjjar Emperor of Al-Hind had the finest of the cavalry having horses, camels and elephants. The numbers of the army is mentioned to be as the 4 armies placed in each of direction, each having 7 lakhs to 9 lakhs of warriors thus numbering in total to about 35-36 Lakhs. The part of Gurjjar Empire in those included the present India, Pakistan and the Afghanistan.
Obviously the question arises that why the Gurjjars don’t even have a regiment in their name in India. That is because all the regiments in the names of castes are made during slavery period of our country and the Gurjjars being the fiercely independent did not either join the alien rulers or the alien rulers were afraid of Gurjjars as is reflected of many records.
This is a poem of Gojri language of 13th- -14th. Century:-

एकणि वँनि वसँतडा,एवडा अँतर काइ।
सीह कवड्डी ना लहै,गैवर लख्खि बिकाइ।।
गैवर गळै गळथीयौ,जहँ खंचै तहँ जाइ।
सीह गळथ्थणा जे सहै, तो दह लख्ख बिकाइ।।

Translation: Elephants and Lions live in the same jungle but the price of a lion is not even a Kodi (Kori was the cheapest Indian coin) whereas the elephant sells for a lakh. However if the lion can bear a chain in his neck like the elephant does to obey the command of his master, the price of the lion would be ten times more than the elephant.

Some youngsters like Kamal Ram from the community joined the British army at a time when even Mahatma Gandhi was canvassing and encouraging the Indian youths to join the British army on a promise by the British regime that they would leave India free after the Word war-II. Kamal Ram, a teenager of a Bayana village of Rajasthan joined the British army during that period won the most admired Victoria Cross and that too without having any formal training under the British army.

[manusingh]

Dear APS bhai
 I am totally agree with your views but with change in time we should also change our outlook towards jobs ....so a need of Gurjar Regiment is need of time to where every caste is fighting a fight of his identity to show their strength and have good share of facilities   from govt bu this approach.

JAI GURJAR ......JAI GOPAL...........

[vij]

APS ji why do you need GURJAR regiment

it hass been a long time since india became independent and indian army is slowly coming out of the british influence. everybody knows why british made the caste regiments. ---------- the loyal castes to british after 1857 were used as cannon fodder to fight for the english in india and abroad. every caste which helped british in 1857 got a regiment for itself as a gift for helping them to maintain thei control over the indian nation.

caste based regiment was the need of the british at their time and they were the masters of divide and rule

the indian military history does not start from 1757 ( battle of plassey) and end in 1857 ( first war of independence). rather indian military history includes the great mahabharat till today. you know the present structure of indian army was conceptualised by the british and modern india just copied and kept that.

many castes in india who repeatedly and agressively contributed to the warrior races since ancient times do not have the regiments. eg Khatris , Mughals, Ahirs yadavs, The Pathans ,tyagis and not to mention the GURJARS. Even Brahmins who were the core of the native regiments prior to 1857 do not have their regiment even though it is common knowledge that today there are a large number of Brahmins officers in high rank in the indian military.

A lot of Prabiya soldiers ( mainly Brahmins and rajputs )actively revolted from East india company in 1857 and this shocked the british as they refused to serve in overseas campaign as well as refused to cut the cartrigdes.

now see which people have regiments

dogra - helped british, jammu raja was a dogra , dogra is not a caste rather it denotes a particular area.

gorkha - this regimet is not even indian, it is nepali. gorkha people live high on mountains and were defetaed by british and asked to contribute their men to subdue indians.

Jat - many Jat states helped british like patiala and jind in 1857. so british rewarded this caste and used them in their plans.

rajputs - rajatshan princely states actively helped british

sikhs - all sikhs states helped british to defeat the 1857 uprising as they were angry with the native regiments ( heavily recruited from eastern UP brahmins and Rajputs ). These Brahmin and rajput dominant forces of east india company had prior to 1857 caused havoc in sikh states and defetaed them in all the wars.

maratha - maratha kingdom of gwalior helped british in `1857.

now who dont have the regiment
1. Gurjar - all the Gurjar states in 1857 ( Landhaura, Teemli, Behsuma , Dadri, Samthar) revolted against British as also the common Gurjar peasant in UP, Delhi, Punjab, rajasthan, MP and Haryana and was the toughest opponent to the British rule in 1857. Only towards end of the war in 1858 did the samthar states sign truce with the british and it was saved from being captured by the english.all other states were destroyed in 1859 by british as a revenge
2. Pathan - all pathan chiefs in western UP( except rampur nawab) and Bihar revolted to british
3, Ahir(yadav) - this caste does not have its own regiment despite of the fact that mulayam singh yadav was the defence minister of India in 1990.s and he could have easily done it. there is good number of yadav in indian army.
4.Tyagi - again no regiment for this caste
5. Bhumihars - even this warlike caste does not have its regiment why???

becasue all the above castes were anti british



as of now their is huge number of Gurjar soldiers in indian army and are recruited heavily into Rajputana Rifles and Mahar Regiment etc

no brahmin is crying that they do not have regiment , no khatri is complaining about it either, rather they produce excellent officers who lead the person of the caste regiments.

so the greatness lies in creating the situation in your favour and not wait for some one to do it for you. I know GURJAR are excellent soldiers but the need is to produce more no of officers who can lead the caste based regiments.