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Post by AP Singh on Oct 26, 2010 11:57:32 GMT 5.5
Famous Alberuni (1030AD) tells us that there was a Guzerat (gujrat) having capital BAZANA wrritten by Arab Historian/Geographers as 'NARAYANA" which was 28 Farsang ( 114 KM ) from Kannuj in between Gwalior and Ujjain . Bazna is nothing but Bayana which was very important town of Gujjar Empire. Gujjar Dahimas ( Dhmamas ) were the rulers of the place. Kachwaha Rajputs forst became Governor of Akbar and were never reffered anywhere in any historical record earlier. If they were such a prominent ruling clan they must have been mentioned in babarnama but unfortunately there is no mention of Kachwaha or Rathor Rajput clan in the Memoirs of Babar. That is clear that they new entrants in the service of Mughals after Babar won the War. Rajputana was part of Gujerat only and it is named so by the Britishers after 1857. Rajput word is not reffered in history even once in the first milennium of the century. All the ruling clans Like Gujjar Chauhans, Chandillas, Parmars, Nagra, Prathihars, Bhatti, Solankis, Tanwars were only Gujjars and were fuedatory of Gujjar Pratihars. Prince Jaipal, who attacked Gazni, but his armies were routed by severe frost wave and thus had to retreat was a Gujjar Pratihar Prince of Kannauj. Trilochana Pal who defeated Mehmud on three occassions was his grand nephew and was the real grand son of his brother Gujjar Samrat Vijay Pal of Kannauj, who is also mentioned as overlord in Alwar inscription of Mathandeva of Pratihar subclan of Gujjars. Folklores and Prithviraj raso are based on the stories fabricated by the bards of hindu servants of Mughals, commonly reffered as Rajputs in Indian history. Prithviraj raso was banned by Buhler since it does not relate any historical fact and the language used itself is of 17th. century. Prithiraj Raj Chauhan was the last Gujjar prince of Gujjar Chauhan clan. His descendents today mostly lives on the hills of Alwar from where his younger brother mounted a surprised attack on the forces of Kutubudin Aibak and ousted the his Gola ( illegitimate son of him) from Ajmer, who was appointed as Muslim Governor of Kannauj. Later Hariraj, the younger brother of Prithviraj of Gujjar Chauhan clan was defeated and this Gola ( his illegitimate son) was made governor of Ranthambore by Aibak. These Golas were not reffered as Gujjars in history and were called by a different name. These facts iare very well recorded by Ferrista.
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Post by AP Singh on Nov 4, 2010 13:52:36 GMT 5.5
Here is the orininal text of Rajor inscription. Rajor was the capital of Gujjar Pratihar Emperor Parambhattaraka Maharajdhiraja Parmeshwara sri Vatsarajdeva which later was shifted to Kannauj by his illustrious son PMP Sri Nagabhattadeva –II.
I am highlighting places ( Point 1 and 2 as follows) where these people who earned their prosperity during slavery period and their bards misinterpret the inscription.
1. All other malacious,fabricated, spurious and faluty theories spread mainly the servants and vassals of Mughals and Britishers (and their bards ) who became prosperous dusring the slavery period of the Country had to shut their mouth since line 4 in the inscription clearly state that Pratihar Emperors belonged to the Pratihar clan ( Gotra) of Gurjjar Tribe.
2. The Temple belonged to lord Shiva, worshipped by Gujjars all over the world since the days of Gujjar Kusans. It is specifically mentioned in the inscription that the requirement of the worship of lords Shiva like growing flowers were done by Royal Gujjars ( word Sri- Gurjjara is used in the inscription) themselves. This point is emphasized since Royal Gujjars otherwise never were cultivators but in the service of lord Shiva the temple land was specially were cultivated by Royal Gujjars themselves. Even after 500 years later after disintegartion of Gujjar Empire the Britishers have recorded the fact that the Gujjars were bad cultivators. The Gujjars were assisted in this work by labourers and gardeners which is also mentioned in the inscription.
Similar traditions of temple services are still followed at Chaturbhuja Temple at Nagda presently known as Udaipur. This temple belong to lord Rama, the ancestors of Gujjars and believed to be incarnation of Vishnu). Similarly all the temples of God Devnarayan are still serviced by Gujjars. Muslim Gujjars also pay respect to their great ancestors by offering paryers at Mazars of their ancestors .
Here is the text of Rajore inscription of Gujjar Pratihar ruler Mathandeva. 1. Om2 svasti II Paramabhattaraka-maharajadhiraja-Paramesvara-sri-Kshitipaladeva-padanudhyata-Paramabhattaraka-maharajadhiraja-paramesva. 2. ra-sri-Vijayapaladeva-padanam=abhipravarddhamana-Kalyanavijayarajye samvatsara-sateshu dasasu shodas-ottarakeshu Ma-3. ghamasa-sitapaksha-ttrayodasyam Sani-yuktayam-evam sam 1016 Magha-sudi 13 Sanav=adya sri-Rajayapur-avasthito maharajadhiraja- 4. paramesvara-sri-Mathandevo maharajadhiraja-sri-Savata-sunur=G-gurjjarapratihar-anvayah kusali svabhog-avapta-Vamsapotaka-bhoga-samva(ba) ddha-5. Vyaghrapataka-grame samupagatan=sarvvan=eva rajapurushan=niyogasthan= gamagamikan= niyuktak-aniyuktakams= tannivasi-mahattara-mahattama-6. vanik-pravani-pramukha-janapadams=cha yatharham manayati vo (bo) dhayati samadisati ch=astu vah samviditam I trin-agra-lagna-jalavindu-samsthan-a- 7. sthirani sarira-sampaj-jivitan=it=imam samsar-asaratam kirtti-murttes=cha kalpasthayitam jnatva maya pittror=atmanas=cha punya-yaso-bhivri- 8. ddhaye7 aihik-amushmika-phala-nimittam samsar-arnnava-taran-artham svargga-margg-arggal-odghatana-hetoh sva-matri-sri-Lachchhuka-nam[n]a sri- 9. hadevaya pratyaham snapana-samalabhana-pushpa-dhupa-naivedya-dipa-taila-sudha-simdura-lagana-khandasphutita-samarachana-prekshanaka-pavittr aka- 10. rohana-karmmakara-vatikapal-adi-vyay-artham=uparisuchita-Vyaghrapataka-gramah sva-sima-trina-yuti-goka(cha)ra-paryantah soddramgah savrikshama- 11. lakulah sajalo bhoga-mayut-adaya[bhy]am=api samasta-sasyanam bhaga-khala-bhiksha-prasthaka-skandhaka-margganaka-danda-dasaparadha-dana-nidhi-nidha- 12. n-aputtrikadhana-nashti-bharat-ochitanuchita-niva(ba) ddhaniva (ba) ddha-samasta-pratyadaya-sahitas=tath=aitat-pratyasanna-sri-Gurjjara-vahita-samasta-kshettra-sametas=ch=akimchi-13. tpragrahyo=dya punye=hani snatva devasya pratishtha-kale udaka-purvvam parikalpya sasanena datto matv=aivam=adya dinad=arabhya srimad-Amarddaka-vinirggata-sri- 14. Sopuriya-samtatyam sri-Chchhattrasiva sri-Gopalidevitadagapali-matha-samva(mba)ddha-sri-Rajyapure sri-Nityapramuditadeva-matha sri-Srikanthacharya-sishya-sri-Ru- 15. pasivacharyas=tachchhishya-srimad-Omkarasivacharyasy=askhalita-vra(bra)hmachary-avapta-mahamahimnah parama-yaso-raseh sishya-pratisishya-kramena dev-o- 16. payog-arthan=tattim1=avyavachchheden=achandrarkkam yavat=kurvatah karayatova samad-vamsajair=anyatarair=vva bhavibhir=bhupalaih kala-kaleshv=apiparipamthana 17. na(na) karya pratyut=asmat-krita-prarthanaya sada tatti-sanathyam vodhavyam II Yatah saman=aiv=eyam punya-phal-avaptir=anumamtavya I Uktam cha bhagavatapa- 18. ramashina veda-vyasena Vyasena II Va(ba) hubhir=vvasudha bhukta rajabhih Sagar-adibhih I yasya yasya yada bhumis=tasya tasya tada phalam II Adityo Varu- 19. no Vayur=Vvra(bbra)hma Vishnur=Hutasanah I bhagavan (n)=Sulapanis=cha abhinandanti bhumidam II Shashtim varsha-sahasrani svargge tishthati bhumidah I achchhetta ch=anumam- 20. ta cha tany=eva narakam vaset II Yair=vvarnchhitam sisiradidhiti-subhra-kirtter=yais=ch=amara-pranayini-parirambhanasya I te sadhavo na hi haranti parena da- 21. ttam danad=vadanti paripalanam sadhu II*II Sasanam kritavn=Deddo likhitam tasya sununa I vyaktam Suraprasadena utkirnnam Harina tata iti II * 22. Tatha smushmsi devaya parsv [e] devakulika-chatushtayasdho-jagatyam7 pratishthita-Vinayaka-sahitya [ha]tta-dane gonim prati hatta-vyavaharu(ri)ka-virin [3] gha[taka]-kupakam prati ghri- 23. tasya tailasya cha palik[e] dve 2 vithim prati masi [(?)] vim 2tatha vahih-pravishta-chollikam prati parnnanam 50 etad=devasya kritam=iti II*II Sri-Matha[na]hII
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Nov 5, 2010 7:55:50 GMT 5.5
Great Post.. i have gone through every single detail..its fabulous..Thanks AP singh ji for providing such precious information...
Thanks and regards
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Post by A P Singh on Nov 5, 2010 21:00:57 GMT 5.5
thanks Ashok Ji
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Post by AP Singh on Nov 9, 2010 11:41:10 GMT 5.5
Dear Chora, Please add the new title of Rajor inscription at WIKI , like Rabatak inscription of Great Kanishka, a Gujjar of Kasana Gotra. That will silence the people trying to steal the Gujjar History forever.
If you need any further support please ask me and I can give 1000s of historical proofs about Gujjar Pratihars and also why they were not Rajputs.
I can also edit WIKI myself but I think that is waste of time since information posted there gets altered without any verifications of the facts.
Regards.
AP Singh
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Post by Vir Gurjareshwar on Nov 11, 2010 14:52:19 GMT 5.5
Dear A.P. Singh ji Thank you very much for providingthe great information and proofs, it will definately give the new direction to Gurjar history.
All the best.
regards
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Post by anmolgurjar on Dec 19, 2010 19:13:05 GMT 5.5
Mr. Mina We don't buy your theory as an ordinary guy can understand the fault in it.In Rajasthan, you can see on trucks and vehicles of Gurjars written ''Veer Gurjar Chechi motors'', ''Gurjar Nekadi motors'' and so on.So your suffix-prefix theory doesn't work in Gurjars.I think it is enough for your post and i even don't have to write a essay like you did. God bless you !!
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Post by Krishan Kumar Gurjar - Lohmod on Dec 22, 2010 18:29:10 GMT 5.5
Ram Ram Bhaio,
Ashok JI, AP Ji and Chhora (Pls mention your name, as it seems odd in pronounce ), Thanks for your views and hardwork in this regard.
I belive on you but still request whatever you post on wikipedia pls post with solid proof, as being a Gurjar we don't want that the Great Gurjars should be praised with fake or wrong infromation or history.
Thanks
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Post by Krishan Kumar Gurjar - Lohmod on Dec 22, 2010 19:01:05 GMT 5.5
Hi Andrewmina,
Bhai aapka naan samajh me nahi aaya?, will you pls give some info about you just because I took interst in your post
I really impressed by first two lines of yours.
"Generally I do not read history on net . Caste history is mockery with real history. We cannot make history by our own sweet will . History is result of hard work of various scholars and historians and history is not gossips of bhands and jagas."
But would like to know that what you mean by "Gurjar Pratihars were not from Gujars caste in popular sense " by popular sense while you are the first with this kind of sence (as I heard/read)
Dear friend as you mention Jaga, Bhands I don't exect idea whether they call Bhats
But in our custom (Gurjars), their is a Bhat who used to come annualy or any special occasion or any time (not exect time) who wrote in his book - new birth in our family with date, at time of marrige in family wrote about the (Gotra -Fathers name-Village ) in which son or daugher of a particulars family has been married.
I am from Panwar Clan, but most of us are using Lohia (Lohmod) these days - Aaya Nagar, Ghitorni, Nathupur (Delhi)
Our ancestors name are mention in their books. We have started using the backname Lohmod as Gorta since King Jagdev Panwar bended the Iron rod of sanwa mann (60 kg) in Puskkar.
More intersting thing is that appx 100 years back, one land of ours in our village Nathupur was disputed among us and Yadav's (as two major cast in our village Yadav and Gurjar). They were saying that that particular land belngs to them.
At that time we produce the books maintained by the Bhat in the Court (at the time of British Rule) and we won the case on the basis of those books maintained by the Bhats.
If the court can give decision on that basis of that who u r not to reckon that yaar
So Friend, whether you belive or not we are what we are!
Our history is safe even most of people tried to ruin it but it is still like the truth.
If you will put black glasses, day will not become night.
Eventhough you have tried all the permutation and combition but still you have not solid proof that we are not what we are.
Still you welcome - I really like your way of permutation and combination tried to fit on your logic.
Thanks for your post and decent language.
Please keep posting...
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 25, 2010 14:02:49 GMT 5.5
John Key is his book : India- a History has resolved many issues of Indian history and demistrated how Gujjar history either distorted or stolen by others:-
At Page 195
Based in Western India at the opposite extremity of Arya-Varta, the Gurjara-Pratiharas have been awarded an Imperial sway greater even than Harsha's and a national resolve worthy of the Congress Party. "They were of the people and did not stand away from their hopes, aspirations and traditions. The y spearhead of the religio-cultural upsurge' the Gurjara-Pratihars were bulwark of defence against the vanguard of Islam, and protectors of Dharmal.
Page 196: How the Gujjar History was stolen:
Tod spent ten years amongst the still-independent rajputs as a political agent in the early nineteenth century. In the subsequent Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, one of the most substantial and sonorous works of British Indian scholarship, he would claim to have established' the common origin of the tribe of Rajasthan and those of ancient Europe'. Invoking 'the Sycthic tribes' as the common link, this was simplay a variation, albeit less remote, of the Indo-Aryan hypothesis advanced by philogists like Jones. Tod also delved deeply into the Puranic pedigrees whereby the various rajput houses claimed descent from heroes of the epic and Vedas. And he valiantly tried to trace each clan to its original homeland. But he failed to explain the greatest mystery of all: why the rajputs, so prominent in Indian history throughout the second millennium AD, had figured in it not once during the first millennium. Where, in short, had the rajputs sprung from? The mystery is still unresolved.
Page 197 : All the fuedatory rulers of Gujjar Pratihars were of Gujjar clans, Like Gujjar Chauhan, Gujjar Tanwar, Gujjar Nagar ( branch of Varajjara or Bajjad), Gujjar Solanki, Gujjar Parmars, Gujjars Chadellas, Gujjar Bhatis etc. etc. were of Gujjars subclans.
What is certain is that Gurjara-Pratihars representd a social and political grouping very different from those of their Pala and rashtrakuta rivals for imperial patrimony of Kannauj. When they first emerged it was as the most successful amongst several related Gurjara royal families; their extensive conquests were often made and subsequently controlled by feudatories who were often relations; and when their empire disintegrated, it did so into powerful local kingdoms ruled by the families who claim a similar kastriya status and a similar-rajput provenance. This prevalence of loose, kin based relatioships suggests that tribe and clan were important to the Gurjara-Pratiharas. Nevertheless, the Gurjara-Pratihars observed the conventions and assumed the traditional epitets of paramouncy. Vatsraja, who from Ujjain appear to have ruled over Malwa and much of rajasthan in the 780s, had been the vfirst to assume the titles of Maharajadhiraja and Parmeshwara.
Kabul was recaptured by Gujjars in 870AD.
At page 203 In the Panjab the Shahis jostled with the Gurjaras, Kasmiris and Sindhi rivals,sometimes as allies, sometimes as enemies; while in Afghanistan their fuedatories clung to considerable territories to the south and east of Kabul. These latter were the first to go, and in 870 Kabul itself was recaptured.
About Rajputs and Rajputana ( Rajputana was Part of Gujerat before 1857)Page 231: Triumph of the Sultans (c1180-1320). Friends, rajput and Conquerors: Th
e word Rajput (raj-putera) simply means 'son of a raja'. Although it therefore implied Ksatriya status and eventually came to mean just that, someone of Kastriya case, it originally had no particular ethnic or regional connotations.
Not until the Mughal period did the word come to be used of a particular class or tribe and, given the prejudices of aurangzeb's reign, its connotation soon became decidedly pejorative: 'Rashboot', as they sometimes appeared in english translation, were freebooters and troble-makers, 'a sort of highway men, or Tories, according to a seven-teenth-century ( the contemporary for the Hindus), they were encountered mainly in Gujarat and rajasthan and were usually under arms, soldiering being their hereditary profession.
See how this Gujjar History was stolen by wrong translation Page231-232.
Colonel James Tod, who as the first British official to visit Rajasthan spent most of the 1820s exploring its political potential, formed a very different idea of the 'rashboots'. Not only was it his boast that 'in a rajpoot I always recognize a friend,' but seemingly in a friend he always recognized a rajput. Their hospitality to one who was offering acknowledgement of their sovereignty plus protection from the then devastating attentions of the Marathas was overwhelming. Tod found rajputs all over Rajasthan; and the whole region thenceforth became, for the British, 'Rajputana'. The word even achieved a retrospective authenticity when, in an 1829 translation of Ferista's history of early Islamic India, John Briggs discarded the pharse 'Indian princes,' as rendered in Dows;s earlier version, and substituted 'Rajpoot princes'. As Briggs freely admitted, he was much indebted for the unreserved communications on all points connected with the history of rajpootana..... to my friend Colonel Tod.
At page 232 the knowledgeble writers describes why Col Todd did it since it was his job to find weak alley.
About Rajputs: The closest attention to their history proves beyond contradiction that they were never capable of uniting, even for their own preservation: a breath, a scurrilous stanza of a bard, has served their closest confederacies. No national head exists amongst them..... and each chief being master of his own house and followers, they are individually too weak to cause us (i,e, the British) any alarm. *3
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