Pride Is More Than Life

[ravikasana]

Ram Ram to all my Gurjar brothers,
Plz Share your valuable view on this sensitive issue …these views definitely bring positive & fruitful outcome in the perception of young youth who r tryies to be modern under the layer of western culture & strongly condemn that these media & Govt are totally against ( Gurjar Community) our rituals & traditions that we r following since this world came into existence. And I am agree that these laws that been formulated are for Societies & not the societies for the law. Its obvious where ppl like our P.M.Manmohan Singh who mostly spent his time abroad with foreigners definitely a western touch have come in his thinking & Soniya Gandhi who are from foreign origin who does not know about the strong traditions that we are following here in india ..Thats why in our country laws such as I.P.C. 377 has been passed is that justified to a country where Supreme Power like Shri Ram or Seeta Ji have taken Birth ..By this all ill treatment that been happening in india I am strongly feeling absence of our Late Prime Mininster “ Shri Lal Bahadur Shastry ji & Late Shri Vallabh Bhai Patel Ji” “Agar Aaj wo Hote To Humare Desh Ki Tasveer Hi Kuch or Hoti “

At this point of inctence I remembering one thing in Hindi that :
जब हमारा देश आजाद हो गया तो नेहरु ने आपने सलाहकार से पुछा की अब में किया करू तो उसने जवाब दियाकी यदि तुम भारत पर राज करना चाहते हो तो सबसे पहले गुर्जर समाज को ऐसा बना दो जिस तरह कि भेस जो झोड़ में मस्त होकर पड़ी रहती हँ और जब हमे जरूरत होती हँ घास या रोटी देखाकर बहार बुला लेते हँ .यदि गुर्जर आगे आ गए शिक्षा के मामले में और केवल 20% , तो तुम राज नहीं कर पाओगे भारत पर और यही हुआ के हमारी गुर्जर कम्युनिटी के साथ अब तक पक्षपात होता आ रहा हँ .

This is the treatment that we are getting after indepence to till date thats why our ppl are in such a deterioratory position .These media ‘s ppl all r Bihari s & Punjabis who doesn’t have any emotion or feeling towards their honour these ppl want success at any cost they r such ppl who grab the opportunities by auction of their sisters & doughters…so they don’t know what the definition of Honour & Prestige is for some one.

Dosto ppl saying these honour killing shud be stop & i am too in favour that such killing shud be stopped.But why these girls & boys plays with the honour of their community ,their parents........Parents who do hard core struggle in their life for their children & these children openly auction their parents honour & do marriage after running up from home, Is it good for one's prestige .so is that justified, the boy or girl who dont have feeling or emotion towards their community & parents, Then why we are favouring them. Respect,Prestige , Honour & Pride are Four things on which a man life stands nothing left after them ..so Boy or Girl who do indulge in such thing should deal like the way it happened now a days.

Here i am totaly agree with mr.krishan lohmod Bhaiya that-If we will look in the past?

When Raavan picked Sita with force, Lord Rama killed Raavan in Ramayana and abdicated Devi Sita too, to keep his honor in the Society ( and that Rama, the Lord is still worship by the people)
& same thing is repeated in Mahabharta where Draupadi cheer haran cost Kaurvas to their Life ,Here himself Lord Krishna Helps Pandavas to take the revenge from kauravas who plays with the honour of Pandavas..

If Rama & Lord Krishna had not done this will he be worshiped ? & if the same thing done by our brother thn how it can be termed as crime ?
I strongly termed Ankit & Manjeet to be Kalyugi Ram & Krishna & Salute them for showing this world that Pride is more important than life for Gurjars.


Many of my friends too oppose my views who r cover up with a western layer , if they sit with samaj only thn they better realise the values of prestige & honour one shud get after a hard core struggle ..so i wud say "This (killing) is not at all wrong. What is wrong in it? Murder is wrong but this (killing) is socially the best thing that has been done. This cannot be termed as wrong,"

In end i wud repeat the words of our Gurjar Bhai shri Naresh Gurjar-

WELLDONE ANKIT AND MANDEEP GUJJAR. GUJJAR COMMUNITY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SACRIFICE FOR AGES.

ANYONE WHO THINKS I AM BEING A HARDLINER SHOULD IMAGINE THE MENTAL TORTURE SUFFERED BY THESE TWO GUYS. IF I HAD BEEN IN THAT SITUATION, I MUST HAD DONE THE SAME THING


Regards
Ravi Kasana
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[Vikram Khatana]

Thanks Bhai Ravi for your precious views ..i totally agree with you...& ur views definitly resulted to be landstone in changing the mind of our those Gurjar Brothers & sisters who are fully turned towards western culture ....& spoiling the heritage of our ancient tradition & rituals .

vikram Khatana
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[kapilkhatana]

hi
ashok bhai, AP singh ji and all my Gurjar brothers i wants the answer of one common question which other caste members asked me/us everyone face this question but i have not a proper solution.

kya Gurjar chor hote h ya hote the?
i became very confused & tense after this question.
i have more Jat friends then Gurjar
we all have a common topic for conversation is our caste, sacrifies of our caste.
some times this question arises
what i have to do...
plz rply me

[Ashok Harsana]

Gurjars were never thieves, they used to loot the Moghals, Turks and britishers, but the reason was rivalry and not profession. Gujjars have always been against the ruling powers (be it Turks, Arabs, Moghals, britishers etc.) and have fought against these foreign invaders after the fall of Gujjar empire in around 12th century AD.

People who supported and sided these foreign invaders were awarded with Jagirs, Taluks, Distinctions, Riyasats and REGIMENTS, while the true patriots "the Gujjars" were notified as a "Criminal Caste".


I will try to explain it with the help of an example:


Iraq was attacked by America, The president was killed and Iraq was controlled by america. In this scenario, someone who is being rewarded by Americans would surely be in a better situation than the ones who sacrifices their lives for their motherland (Iraq). The real patriots were defamed as Terrorists and Thieves while the traitors are being rewarded. SO u may understand what happened in 1857.

All caste based regiments were formed prior to independence, that means all of the castes having a regiment today were killing innocent and loyal Indians for Britishers in the pre-independence period..


Nehru ji said in Discovery of India " Gujjars are the most loyal caste of India which has never produced any Traitor.


Read at the following link to see what Sonia gandhi Say about Gujjars:
www.groundreport.com/World/Our-Country-is-proud-of-the-Gujjar-community-Sonia_3/2924139

If you have time to read the whole story of 1857 then pls go tot he following link:
www.kapadia.com/NativeNarrative/NarrativeofMunshiJeewanLal.htm


Bhaiyo humare Gujjaro me hazaro gumnam shaheed hain, jo history ki gehri dhool me chhipe hain par aane wale time me log research kar kar ke apne aap jaan jayenge ki GADDAR kaun tha aur deshbahakt kaun.....

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Rajpoot are spreading more misinformation by stealing our history and presenting it as theirs. Even in international media like Discovery chanel And History chanel
,Rajpoot are shown as " Indian Warriors Called Kshatriya" ,such a blesphemy .Wikipedia has been now sabotaged for this propaganda and they are presenting themselves as only vedic dynasty and they have locked the wiki articles on gurjars after posting their delibrate conspired theoreical crap such as Gurjar came from cental asia and are foreigners ;that is, they are smacking their history on us. Its confirmed that they are of scythian stock from central asia who came here after being disposed by arabs and mongols .Now they are also claiming that Harsh Vardhan (Harshan=Harsana) was their king by posting some idiotic mismatch of criss-crossed confusion and fabrication .They also deleted names of great gurjar personalities from list in gurjar articles and instead added them in their list as rajput .Its they who have been waging their tails like pet dogs for mughals for 400 years and then for british until independence .All they did up to this time was to laze off in alcohal and women and now they show more proof of their dirty mentality by stealing our history by bribing britisher(big shitter) historians and Indian historians .They say they are "real king who have saved india from days ancient" ,what were they doing when Nadir shah looted delhi and massacred 200000+ innocent civillians .And when the british came, instead of fighting them ,they welcomed them and entertained them .British have been saying that rajpoots were their puppets all the while and they helped 20000 british occupy a land of 20 times more population by assisting them in battles against Indian kings.Now after british have gone they are againg decieving the Indian nation by bribing the historians to put them in good light and show them as patriots while most of them are traitors like Jai Chand .
Gurjar Vansh is the confedration of all the various real and true vedic kshatriya clans of solar and lunar lineages and their branches from the end of mahabharat times, this only explains their having more than 1200 clans and population spread accross all the northern sub continent progenated from 5000+ years ;not like rajpoots who barely have 36 clans so far devepod only in 700 years more or less;
and they say in their fabricated versions of puranas that they arose to annihilate buddhism and save brahmins ( they seem to have forgot that Harsh was buddhist) . Which kshatriya will annihilate one Indian religion for another Indian religion ? here they seem more like arabs than kshatriya. All they did was to betray their kings to foreign invaders in course of thousand years and grab their kingdoms and afterwards FORGE fictious vanshavali/lineage histories to legtimize their claims . Its they who betrayed us to mughals and to british ;nobody else.They say they're Rama descendents ; where were they when the historians were denouncing Kusha(Shri Rama Chandra'son) descendents i.e. Kushans as some non aryan tribes from central asia.
For experienced persons ,the shortcomming of internet are well known and Wikipedia is already notorious as lying propaganda tool for America and Britain because they controll it and China because they constantly monitor and filter it.But for a novice and everyone in general around the world wikipedia like internet databases are primary sources for getting information and knowledge about us.So its of utter and imediate importance that
... all those who are in professions dealing with computer and softwares ,all major gurjar research institutions, as well as all those spend much time on internet and all who can
......must contantly monitor carefully all informational content on internet espescially Wikipedia ,filter it and keep it under alert and strict vigil , and in correct state and manner so that nobody whether petty rajpoot ,pahari,kashmiri ,meena ,ahir or any d**n body are able steal our proud history and heritage from us anymore and that nobody desrespects or derogates us or our reputation in front of the world ever again .Lets take bake what is rightfully ours starting from this.
All proud gurjars ,...take action against plagiarism of Gurjar history by rajpoots, earnestly and immediatly without further ado and not let this insult happen anymore what so ever at all.