Post by Vir Gurjareshwar on Nov 11, 2010 11:44:50 GMT 5.5
Dear Gurjar Chaudhrys
&
Mr. Virj
Thank you very much to teaching us. But you very well know that Gurjar Samaj has its own ideology which is spread in over 9 states of India. That is the thing that we were on Top and again we are coming on top of the world.
If in some place Gurjars have conflicts with other caste then it can not be think that whole Gurjars are against with that particular caste. That is their own problem and rest of community can not support till the real true or false picture come out.
Same election problem always come even in same caste.
We have our own rich Culture, Language, History and worship place (Pushkar-Brahma Temple). Other communities dont have these all.
I will reply you point wise.
Please understand that here on this board, the view of a particular user dont represent the views of whole Gurjar community. It may be his own thinking.
Gurjars are not followers of any particular political party or person, as we were in past. (and we loose the things because of it)
Our all non political Gurjar Mahasabha and other organisations always insist to people to participate in every political party and try to gain it.
We are innocent but not fool.
We are not selling our lands. But we also not kill our parents for the land, as other particular community do in Baghpat, Muzafarnagar and Baraut.
The majority of Joint families in india can be seen in Gurjars of (Gujarat, Maharastra, U.P., J&K, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, Punjab, Delhi, Rajasthan, M.P.) only.
Due to our rich culture the majority places & cities are in Gurjars name, Gurjari Ornaments, Gurjari Raag etc and we still enjoy the same in present life. Our every youth knows all these.
Talking of Gurjars of Delhi and noida is not the actual fact of Gurjar life.
Gurjars of Delhi and Noida are doing well and purchased the agriculture land in Badaun, Shahjahanpur, Bareilly, Haridwar, Kaithal and other part of haryana and himachal pradesh. Exceptions of people are always present, but these exceptions are very few.
Sau Acchai ke aage ek burai Bhari padti hai, Thats why you are looking only few bad exception.
Every person of any community or caste are rich..................it is impossible. So if Gurjar youths are doing job in Clubs as Bouncers, so what? Every land looser can not be a big farmer. Tumhare village mein sare crorepati hain to, let us know.
You better knows that Gurjars of Delhi and Noida are doing well in Real Estate, Transports and other Big business. Infrastructure is based on Gurjars.
Now we talk about politics.
No government has recognized Gurjar strength because of our education and non presence of any leadership, exception was Mr. Ram Chandra Vikal (Only Gurjar leader who was same status of Mr. Charan Singh at once). But his own mistake in 1971 has taken Gurjars far from Rule. At that time he had support of 272 MLAs and Mr. charan Singh has 100 MLAs support. Then Mr. Vikal gave the first courtsey chance to become C.M., Mr. Charan Singh with promise that after a fixed time Mr. Vikal will be next CM of U.P.. But as the people of india knows that capacity of trust is very limited of that particular caste. And Gurjars aaj vahin par khade hain, aur vo log bahut dur pahoonch gaye.
Jat leadership misguided the political parties and presented western U.P. as Jat majority. But truth is coming out. The big reason of our political backwardness is our education. bnut we learned lots with our past mistakes and dont trust on others.
Present U.P. Government has also its political agendas, in which it use the different communities to cash the people sentiments. BSP is plays pure caste politics like LokDal. So what she is doing wrong.
Mr. Ajit Singh represents Jats, whose total population share is 4%. But Mayavati represents Dalit whose population share is 21%, and she use this 21% with other majority share community.
This is the golden rule of BSP.
In western UP region Gurjars are in Majority after Muslims, and she is using Gurjar strength. and whats wrong? Gurjars are also enjoying the power which was far from them since 1000 years, after the last Gurjar King.
But the true fact is that Ms Mayavati very well know that Gurjars are blind trustable, hard worker and best administrator.
What other political parties gave to Gurjar community as per our population? Nothing.
Just read out for true picture .
In Rajasthan, Ms. Vasundhra Raje Scindhia and his son won the election b'coz of Gurjars. Gurjars are Trustable and strong for their commitments. In Jhalawad Gurjars are 18%, but Gurjars always full fill the promise. But they receive against their support.....................Bullets. This BJP is pure Jat party with RLD.
Now talk for Congress, They are people who honour the traitors.
What they did with Rajesh Pilot in CWC and congress presidential election, everybody knows. They manage to defeat Mr. Pilot by 1 Vote against Ms. Sonia Gandhi.
Mr. Nehru always praised the Gurjar bravery and loyality towards the Country, but never did nothing.
What Congress did, Four times M.P. Mr. avtar Singh bhadana never gets the central Minister seat.
What these Parties do in election tickets? Nobody give the tickets to Gurjars. Why? because of our innocence. But after Rajasthan Agitation governments came to know that Royal Kshatriya Blood was cold in past, now become boiled.
But this not the fact that Gurjars are not enjoying in other parties. They are in BJP (Ch. hukum Singh Chauhan-Leader opposition-U.P., Madhu Gurjar, Mayor Meerut)
We 10.2 Crores Gurjars have our own mind to think good, own courage to take risk, own strength to become best warrior.
We dont need the guidence of others, nor the free consultaion.
Just keep your consultaion for your communities bad time.
Jab Cow, buffalows ko palte the tab bhi kisi ne salah nahi di, Ab Marcedese Benz aur BMW ko maintain karte hai tab kisi ko salah dene ki koi jarurut nahi hai.
We have our strong young children. We will prove in next 25 years not in 250 years as others taken.
We are the community who had Great Warrior & Ruler.......Adivarah Gurjar Samrat Mihit Bhoj Mahan.
our one is heavy of others 100 rulers.
History always repeats.
Jai Vir Gurjar
Jai Vir Gurjar Land
&
Mr. Virj
Thank you very much to teaching us. But you very well know that Gurjar Samaj has its own ideology which is spread in over 9 states of India. That is the thing that we were on Top and again we are coming on top of the world.
If in some place Gurjars have conflicts with other caste then it can not be think that whole Gurjars are against with that particular caste. That is their own problem and rest of community can not support till the real true or false picture come out.
Same election problem always come even in same caste.
We have our own rich Culture, Language, History and worship place (Pushkar-Brahma Temple). Other communities dont have these all.
I will reply you point wise.
Please understand that here on this board, the view of a particular user dont represent the views of whole Gurjar community. It may be his own thinking.
Gurjars are not followers of any particular political party or person, as we were in past. (and we loose the things because of it)
Our all non political Gurjar Mahasabha and other organisations always insist to people to participate in every political party and try to gain it.
We are innocent but not fool.
We are not selling our lands. But we also not kill our parents for the land, as other particular community do in Baghpat, Muzafarnagar and Baraut.
The majority of Joint families in india can be seen in Gurjars of (Gujarat, Maharastra, U.P., J&K, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, Punjab, Delhi, Rajasthan, M.P.) only.
Due to our rich culture the majority places & cities are in Gurjars name, Gurjari Ornaments, Gurjari Raag etc and we still enjoy the same in present life. Our every youth knows all these.
Talking of Gurjars of Delhi and noida is not the actual fact of Gurjar life.
Gurjars of Delhi and Noida are doing well and purchased the agriculture land in Badaun, Shahjahanpur, Bareilly, Haridwar, Kaithal and other part of haryana and himachal pradesh. Exceptions of people are always present, but these exceptions are very few.
Sau Acchai ke aage ek burai Bhari padti hai, Thats why you are looking only few bad exception.
Every person of any community or caste are rich..................it is impossible. So if Gurjar youths are doing job in Clubs as Bouncers, so what? Every land looser can not be a big farmer. Tumhare village mein sare crorepati hain to, let us know.
You better knows that Gurjars of Delhi and Noida are doing well in Real Estate, Transports and other Big business. Infrastructure is based on Gurjars.
Now we talk about politics.
No government has recognized Gurjar strength because of our education and non presence of any leadership, exception was Mr. Ram Chandra Vikal (Only Gurjar leader who was same status of Mr. Charan Singh at once). But his own mistake in 1971 has taken Gurjars far from Rule. At that time he had support of 272 MLAs and Mr. charan Singh has 100 MLAs support. Then Mr. Vikal gave the first courtsey chance to become C.M., Mr. Charan Singh with promise that after a fixed time Mr. Vikal will be next CM of U.P.. But as the people of india knows that capacity of trust is very limited of that particular caste. And Gurjars aaj vahin par khade hain, aur vo log bahut dur pahoonch gaye.
Jat leadership misguided the political parties and presented western U.P. as Jat majority. But truth is coming out. The big reason of our political backwardness is our education. bnut we learned lots with our past mistakes and dont trust on others.
Present U.P. Government has also its political agendas, in which it use the different communities to cash the people sentiments. BSP is plays pure caste politics like LokDal. So what she is doing wrong.
Mr. Ajit Singh represents Jats, whose total population share is 4%. But Mayavati represents Dalit whose population share is 21%, and she use this 21% with other majority share community.
This is the golden rule of BSP.
In western UP region Gurjars are in Majority after Muslims, and she is using Gurjar strength. and whats wrong? Gurjars are also enjoying the power which was far from them since 1000 years, after the last Gurjar King.
But the true fact is that Ms Mayavati very well know that Gurjars are blind trustable, hard worker and best administrator.
What other political parties gave to Gurjar community as per our population? Nothing.
Just read out for true picture .
In Rajasthan, Ms. Vasundhra Raje Scindhia and his son won the election b'coz of Gurjars. Gurjars are Trustable and strong for their commitments. In Jhalawad Gurjars are 18%, but Gurjars always full fill the promise. But they receive against their support.....................Bullets. This BJP is pure Jat party with RLD.
Now talk for Congress, They are people who honour the traitors.
What they did with Rajesh Pilot in CWC and congress presidential election, everybody knows. They manage to defeat Mr. Pilot by 1 Vote against Ms. Sonia Gandhi.
Mr. Nehru always praised the Gurjar bravery and loyality towards the Country, but never did nothing.
What Congress did, Four times M.P. Mr. avtar Singh bhadana never gets the central Minister seat.
What these Parties do in election tickets? Nobody give the tickets to Gurjars. Why? because of our innocence. But after Rajasthan Agitation governments came to know that Royal Kshatriya Blood was cold in past, now become boiled.
But this not the fact that Gurjars are not enjoying in other parties. They are in BJP (Ch. hukum Singh Chauhan-Leader opposition-U.P., Madhu Gurjar, Mayor Meerut)
We 10.2 Crores Gurjars have our own mind to think good, own courage to take risk, own strength to become best warrior.
We dont need the guidence of others, nor the free consultaion.
Just keep your consultaion for your communities bad time.
Jab Cow, buffalows ko palte the tab bhi kisi ne salah nahi di, Ab Marcedese Benz aur BMW ko maintain karte hai tab kisi ko salah dene ki koi jarurut nahi hai.
We have our strong young children. We will prove in next 25 years not in 250 years as others taken.
We are the community who had Great Warrior & Ruler.......Adivarah Gurjar Samrat Mihit Bhoj Mahan.
our one is heavy of others 100 rulers.
History always repeats.
Jai Vir Gurjar
Jai Vir Gurjar Land