The real facts of Indian history

[AP Singh]

Hi Ashok,
I thought that by today onwards we should make a practice that whatever articles we post to the site www.allempires.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?
We should also at your site also to help inform our Gujjar brothers more about our glorious past.
To write in that forum is must since it will enhance the image of Gujjars among others by knowing the real facts of history.

This is the first one in that series.


Hi Historioans,

I would like to inform that the time when the Shiva Temple was built a Agra where the Taj mahal is erected later, the situation was entirely different. The Kachwaha chieftain of Jaipur was not even the the vassal of second rank to Gujjars but was a vassal the third rank of Gujjars Pratihars and their capital was Nishidha (Narwargarh, near Gwalior, the home of Nishads,the clan to which Raja of jaipur belonged). That was also the time when the Muslim Invaders used to hide themselves behind the Idols of Hindu Gods as the historical records of Muslim invaders themselves due to fear of gujjars armies.

See the link for authentic details:


www.bharatvani.org/books/hhrmi/ch2.htm

Arab travellers to India of the 10th century “all speak of only two independent Arab principalities with Multan and Mansurah as their capitals”. The Zuzr (The Gurjar Pratihara) kings waged constant war “against the Arab prince of Multan, and with the Mussalmans, his subjects on the frontier”. Multan would have been lost by the Arabs but for a Hindu temple. Dr. Misra quotes Al-Istakhri who wrote about AD 951 that in Multan “there is an idol held in great veneration by the Hindus and every year people from distant parts undertake pilgrimages to it… When the Indians make war upon them and endeavour to seize the idol, the inhabitants [Arabs] bring it out pretending that they will break it and burn it. Upon this the Indians retire, otherwise they would destroy Multan.” Finally, he observes: “Thus after three centuries of unremitting effort, we find the Arab dominion in India limited to two petty states of Multan and Mansurah. And here, too, they could exist only after renouncing their iconoclastic zeal and utilizing the idols for their own political ends. It is a very strange sight to see them seeking shelter behind the very budds, they came here to destroy

[AP Singh]

Hi Historians,
I have described in my earlier posts that how and when the various Gujjars clans like Chauhans,Solankis, Parmars, Guhilots etc. asserted their independence with the other Non Gujjar fuedatories like Kalchuris,Sadhwsa, rathores,Kushwahs etc from the Gujjar Pratihar empire of Kannauj after the tenth century. There were other clans of Gujjars like Dahima who could not create their own kingdoms but given birth to some great warriors.This article will also show how the branch of Pundirs from Dahima was born. The Pundirs are found both among Gujjars and rajputs.

Here is some information about the Gujjar Dahimas during the reign of Gujjar Chauhans at Delhi. This will also indicate that Mewat was also ruled by Gujjars since the other daughter of Dahima was married to the king of Mewat and all these Muslims of Mewat bearing the gotras of Gujjars like Tanwars, Bhadana etc. are Gujjars only and were Hindu till 1192 before the conquest of Delhi by the Ghori.
This historical record is taken from the Annals and antiquities of rajasthan by Col Todd.


Dahima- The dahima has left but the wreck of a great name. Seven ceturies have swept away all reollection of a tribe who once afforded one of the proudest themes of the songs of the bard. The Dahima was the lord of Biana and one of the most powerful vassals of the Chohan emperor, Prithviraja. Three brothers of his house held the highest position offices under this monarch and the period during which the elder, Kaimas, was his minister , was the brightest in the history of the Chohan: but he fell a victim to blind jealousy. Poondir, the second brother, commanded the frontier at Lahore. The third Chaond Rao was the principal leader in the last battle where Prithviraj fell, with the whole of his chivalry, on the bank of Caggar. Even the Historians of Shabudin have preserved the name of the gallant Dahima, Chaond Rao, whom they style Khandirai: and to whose valour, they relate,Shabudin himself nearly fell a sacrifice. With the Chohan, the race seems to have extiguished. Rainsi, his only son, was by this sister of Chaond Rao, but he did not survive the capture of Delhi. This marriage forms the subject of one of the books of the bard, who never was more eloquent in praise of Dahima.

Chund the bard, thus describes Biana, and the marriage of the Prithviraja with the Dahimee. On the summit of the hills of Druinandahar, who awful load oppressed the head of sehesnag, was placed the castle of Biana, resembling Kailash. The Dahima had three sons and two fair daughters: may this name be perpetuated throughout this iron age. One daughter was married to the lord of Mewat, the other to Chauhan. With her he gave in dower eight beauteous damsels and sixty three female slaves, one hundred chosen horses of the breed of Irak, two elephants and ten shields, a pallet of silverfor the bride, one hundred wooden images, one hundred chariots and one thousand pieces of gold.
The bard on taking leave says: “ the Dahima lavished gold and filled his coffers with the praises of mankind. The Dahimee produced a jewel, e gem without price, the prince Rainsi.





Edited by AP Singh - 04 November 2006 at 4:18am

[AP Singh]

Hi Historians,
Here is the details of the Nagabhatta I, the great grand father of Mihir Bhoj Mahan who ruled Malwa and severly defeated the armies of the Arab inavders. It is to be noted that the Delhi was founded by Gujjar Tanwars, who were fuedatory kings of Gujjar Pratihars in 736 as Dhillika and the capital city of Bhopal was founded by his another fuedatory kings Parmars as Bhojpal. The Shiva temple where Taj mahal is erected later after the fall of Gurjar empire was a Shiva temple built by Mihir Bhoj Mahan and surrounding area was a big garden built by him.
Gwalior Inscription (verse 4).

The Gwalior Inscription announces Nagabhata's victory in the following manner:
He crushed the mighty hosts of the mlechchhas
Those foes of godly deeds.
With terror-striking weapons as he stood
He looked like
Him of the four-arms. 2

Nagabhata I founded the Gurjara power which held imperial sway at Kanauj for well-high three hundred years. About A.D. 780 his grandson Vatsaraja ruled at Jhalor while Varaba or Jayavaraha ruled over the kingdom of Sauryas, which may perhaps be identified with, Saurashtra.

[AP Singh]

Unfortunately the historical records of the Gujjar empire has been lost during the Constant raids of Arabs and Turks (After conversion to Islam), and whatever records are available are with the Stone Inscription found at various places or the Historical records of Arab scholars. The Arab scholars made the following proverb about the Indian armies based on their experience with the Gujjar armies since as per the records of Abu Zaid the size of the army of Mihir Bhoja Mahan was 80 lakhs. This figure is twice of the size of the army of Mughals at the time of akbar.

The Arab proverb about the Indian armies (Gurjara Pratiharas armies since Arabs were greatly exposed to this army only).

The Persians are famed for their archers, the Turks for their horsemen, and India for its armies.

[AP Singh]

These are the Historical records that How the Gujjars moved from Malwa to Kannauj and then to Sindh to defeat the arab invaders. In the process the number of their fuedatory kings and size of their armies were continiously kept multiplying.

Gwalior Inscriptioon of Mihira Bhoja (verse 4).

1: About Naga bhatta 1: The Gwalior inscriptions announces Nagabhata's victory in the following manner:

He crushed the mighty hosts of the mlechchhas
Those foes of godly deeds.
With terror-striking weapons as he stood
He looked like
Him of the four-arms.

Nagabhata I founded the Gurjara power which held imperial sway at Kanauj for well-high Three Hundred years. About A.D. 780 his grandson Vatsaraja ruled at Jhalor while Varaba or Jayavaraha ruled over the kingdom of Sauryas, which may perhaps be identified with, Saurashtra.


Gwalior Inscription about Nagabhatta II, the Grand father of Samrat Mihir Bhoj Mahan: (3 Ibid. (Verse 8)

About A.D. 792 Nagabhata II, son of Vatsaraja, came to the throne of Gurjaradesha, then growing from strength to strength. His popular name was Ama. His mother, Sundaridevi, was a princess of the family of Yashovarman, who is described as belonging to the Maurya family. He is described as the Primeval Man born again, as once he was born as Nagabhata I, 3 for he I restored the fortunes of Gurjaradesha which had fallen low at the time of his accession.

Immediately on coming to the throne, Nagabhata II proceeded to conquer the 'kings of Sindhu',.

While moving from Ujjain (Malwa), which was left to another Gujjar clan (Parmars), to Sindh to check the invaders in their own space these Gujjars were called the Pratihars (The Protectors of the Nation) and the style to beat the enemy at his own place is particularly called the Pratihar Style. Here are some views of historians about the style of fighting of Gujjar Pratohars and Gujjar Parmars.

Garud shakti Style of Gujjar Pratihars taken from the inscription of their one of the fuedatory king Gujjar Parmars:

1.Since the Gujjars were aware about the menace of these people they evolved a policy to end this menace and to safeguard the prosperity of their country. This was known as Garud shakti. In a Parmar (a clan of gujjar tribe), copper plate we find ‘the flying figure of Garud holding a snake in its left claw’. This was a representation of Garud shakti for the liberation of the country from the clutches of Kali bhujangas (H.C. Roy, Dynastic history of North India, Vol. II, pp. 844)


2.Pratihar Style of fighing the enemy:

The Pratiharan vidhi or giving battle to the enemy in his own state has been associated with the Gujjar Pratihar rulers. This policy proved to be the panacea for exterminating the invaders. If the Mandsor inscription of Yashodharman (6th century a.d.), is to be believed, the country was at that time ruined by Pakshaniti (factition politics). The earth was afflicted by the kings who manifested pride, who were cruel, through want of proper training, who from delusion transgressed path of good conduct and were destitute of virtuous delight’ (Corpus Inscriptionum Indicarun (Vol III, pp. 146). During this adverse situation, Gurjar Pratihars emerged as the protectors of the nation. Hailing from Ujjain at first, they carried on ceaseless fight against Tajiks and Turuskas and battled with them in the Pamir region. They established their military camps in Kashmir, Gujrawala (Frontier Provinces). The grateful generations acknowledged their great contribution. It was accepted that Gujjar Pratihars, especially Mihirbhoj converted the age of vice into the age of virtue. These kings were endowed with 36 qualities. And the region (Kshetra), where the earlier Pratihars ruled was sanctified in literature especially Puranas as the Punya Avantika bhand (Sanctified Ujjain region)

[AP Singh]

Hi Historians
My this article will describe how the Gujjar Guhils , one of the fuedatory kings of Gujjar Pratihars having title of Rawals started using the title Rana, which was only used by the Gujjar Pratihar overlords.

This will also describe that Jai Chand whose ancestors were seated on the tthrone of kannauj with the help of Muslim invaders foung asylum with a smaller branch of Gujjar Pratihars and Mandawar and later captured mandawar by treachury.

Jai Chand Rathor thought that by inviting Ghori against his son in law, a Gujjar Chauhan, he would be able to find favours with Ghori. He was proved wrong when in the first battle the Ghori was severly defeated and later in the second battle after the ghori won, jai Chand could not find any favours from him. In fact withim one year Ghori attacked Jai Chand and Jai chand died while fleeing from the battle field and crossing Ganga.

These two very important events of history are recorded by Col Todd. Here is how Col Todd described these events.

Mundawar was the capital of the Parihars and was the chief city of Marwar which owned the sway of this tribe prior to the invasion and the settlement of Rathores.It is placed five miles of modern Jodhpur.

The rather immigrant prince of Canouj found an asylum with the Purihars. They repaid it by treachery and a name celebrated in the rathores annals, disposed the last of Parihars and pitched the flag of the rathores on the battlement of Mandwar.

The power of Parihars had however been reduced previously by the princes of Mewar, who not only abstracted much territory from them but assumed the title of its princes Rana. This was in the thirteenth century when Mundwar was captured and its prince slain , by the rawal of Cheetore.

[AP Singh]

Hi Ashok,
Delhi was founded by Gujjar Tanwars (Tuars,Toors, Tomar) in 736AD. The earliest reference Of Gujjar Tanwars is found in an inscription at Pehpowa, ancient Prithudaka, in Karnal district of present day Haryana of the reign of Gujjar Pratihar king MahendraPal I. It states that their was a king Juala of the Gujjar Tanwar dynasty who obrained prosperity by looking after the affairs of Gujjar king.
The Gujjar Chauhan king Guaka II of Sakambri,the Son of Gujjar Chauhan king Chandan killed Gujjar Tanwar king Rudrena in the battle. At that time both the Gujjar tanwars and the Gujjar Chauhans were the Samants of Gujjar Pratihars. The foundation of the religious buildings at Pushkar were laid by the wife of Gujjar Chauhan king Chandan at that point of time.

The Son and successor of Guaka was Vakpatiraja I who ruled in the first quarter of tenth century and he stated to have harrased TantraPal who was on his way to Anant Gochara (seems to be country near Sikar) with a message of his overlord, the Gujjar Pratihars of kannaj. This statement makes it clear that at this point of the Gujjar Chauhans acquired enough power to defy the authority of Gujjar Pratihars the overlords of all kings of india.
Gujjar Chauhan VakpatiRaj built a Shiva temple at Pushkar. He had three sons Simharaja, Vatsraja and Lakshmana. Laksman founded a kingdom at Naddulla, in southren Marwar where his sucessors ruled for several centuries.Simhraja atscended the throne after Vakpati raja. He defeated the Gujjar Tomar general named Salvan and put in to prison a number of Gujjar Tanwars princes. In order to liberate them, the Gujjar Pratihar king of Kannauj the Devpal came to the house of Gujjar Chauhan at Sakambri in person. Iskla Matlab ye ki Gujjaron ki Panchayat ne faisla kar ke Delhi Wapas Gujjar Tanwars ko Dilwa dee. Subsequently the Simraja who ruled in the third quarter of third century freed his territories from the suzerainty of the Gujjar Pratihars who had about the time lost their imperial position. He is the first among the Gujjar Chahaman kings to assume the title of Maharajadhiraj. He granted a number of villages to the temple of Harshnath, which was constructed in AD 956 and lies near the village of harshnath about seven miles of Sikar.
The Gujjar Tanwars continued to rule Haryan till the middle of twelfth century when they were overthrown by Gujjar Chauhan king Vishaladev ( The famous Beesal Dev). King Beesal Dev was the real brother of Mandalji, the grandfarher of God DevNarayan. Mandalji built a big water tank ant Mandalgarh near Bhilwara, which is still there.

PrthiviRaj Chauhan was born in this branch of Gujjar Chauhans with Gujjar Tanwar mother, a princes of Delhi and thus became the king of Delhi since his maternal grandfather Anangpal, the Gujjar Tanwar king of Delhi had no son and adopted his grandson Prithviraj Chauhan.

[AP Singh]

Hi Ashok,
This is further my this post Reply#1 in this thread.
The Gurjar Emperor Dev Pal (948-954) while returning from the house of Gujjar Chauhans at Sakambri, he was killed on the way back to kannauj by Rawal ALLAT of guhilot dynasty of Chittor, who was a third rank fuedatory king of Gujjar Pratihars through the second rank fuedatory kings, the Gujjar Parmar of Malwa.
This was probably done by the mistake since the Gujjar Emperor Dev Pal did not carry much of his army since he came on this trip to amicably resolve the issue between two clans of Gujjars themselves, the Gujjar Tanwars of Delhi and Gujjar Chauhans of Sakambri and did not expect any trouble.
Though probably by mistake but Rawat Allat had to pay for this mistake and he was immedaitely put to death by his lords, the Gujjar Parmara king Munja Raja and the a fuedatory of second rank of the Gujjar Pratihar overlords. Not only that the Guhilots were driven out of Chittor and no body from this dynasty was allowed to rule for few years till the reigh of Gujjar parmara king Vakpai Raj of Malwa who ruled over this territory on behalf of the Gujjar Pratihars overlords.Hence the Chittor which was given to Bappa Rawal,to rule, by Gujjar Parmars( The mother of Bappa Rawal was from Gujjar Parmar gotra and Guhilas are from the Gujjar Solankis of Gujarat) of Abu, on behalf of their Gujjar Pratihars overlords of Malwas was taken back in 954 by the death of Rawat Allat. After few years these Guhilots were allowed to rule from Ahar and that is the begining of another clan of Guhilots called Ahrias.

After the fall of Gujjar Pratihar empire in 1018, another clan of Gujjars from Gujrat, the Solankis defeated the Gujjar Parmars of Malwa and Chittor was taken by Sid Raj Jai Singh Solanki from Parmars of this dynasty and Guhilots became the Fuedatories of this Gujjar clan afterwards till the dynasties of these premier Gujjar clans came to an end, due to infighting among themselves and continiuous attacks by Muslim invaders.

The Founder of this Gujjar Solanki dynasty of Patan was Mulraj who was appointed as a fuedatory king of Gujjar Pratihars by the Emperor Mahi Pal in 941, just one year before of his death.

[AP Singh]

My previous post is further reply#6 in this thread which by mistake is written as reply#1,

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Rajpoot are spreading more misinformation by stealing our history and presenting it as theirs. Even in international media like Discovery chanel And History chanel
,Rajpoot are shown as " Indian Warriors Called Kshatriya" ,such a blesphemy .Wikipedia has been now sabotaged for this propaganda and they are presenting themselves as only vedic dynasty and they have locked the wiki articles on gurjars after posting their delibrate conspired theoreical crap such as Gurjar came from cental asia and are foreigners ;that is, they are smacking their history on us. Its confirmed that they are of scythian stock from central asia who came here after being disposed by arabs and mongols .Now they are also claiming that Harsh Vardhan (Harshan=Harsana) was their king by posting some idiotic mismatch of criss-crossed confusion and fabrication .They also deleted names of great gurjar personalities from list in gurjar articles and instead added them in their list as rajput .Its they who have been waging their tails like pet dogs for mughals for 400 years and then for british until independence .All they did up to this time was to laze off in alcohal and women and now they show more proof of their dirty mentality by stealing our history by bribing britisher(big shitter) historians and Indian historians .They say they are "real king who have saved india from days ancient" ,what were they doing when Nadir shah looted delhi and massacred 200000+ innocent civillians .And when the british came, instead of fighting them ,they welcomed them and entertained them .British have been saying that rajpoots were their puppets all the while and they helped 20000 british occupy a land of 20 times more population by assisting them in battles against Indian kings.Now after british have gone they are againg decieving the Indian nation by bribing the historians to put them in good light and show them as patriots while most of them are traitors like Jai Chand .
Gurjar Vansh is the confedration of all the various real and true vedic kshatriya clans of solar and lunar lineages and their branches from the end of mahabharat times, this only explains their having more than 1200 clans and population spread accross all the northern sub continent progenated from 5000+ years ;not like rajpoots who barely have 36 clans so far devepod only in 700 years more or less;
and they say in their fabricated versions of puranas that they arose to annihilate buddhism and save brahmins ( they seem to have forgot that Harsh was buddhist) . Which kshatriya will annihilate one Indian religion for another Indian religion ? here they seem more like arabs than kshatriya. All they did was to betray their kings to foreign invaders in course of thousand years and grab their kingdoms and afterwards FORGE fictious vanshavali/lineage histories to legtimize their claims . Its they who betrayed us to mughals and to british ;nobody else.They say they're Rama descendents ; where were they when the historians were denouncing Kusha(Shri Rama Chandra'son) descendents i.e. Kushans as some non aryan tribes from central asia.
For experienced persons ,the shortcomming of internet are well known and Wikipedia is already notorious as lying propaganda tool for America and Britain because they controll it and China because they constantly monitor and filter it.But for a novice and everyone in general around the world wikipedia like internet databases are primary sources for getting information and knowledge about us.So its of utter and imediate importance that
... all those who are in professions dealing with computer and softwares ,all major gurjar research institutions, as well as all those spend much time on internet and all who can
......must contantly monitor carefully all informational content on internet espescially Wikipedia ,filter it and keep it under alert and strict vigil , and in correct state and manner so that nobody whether petty rajpoot ,pahari,kashmiri ,meena ,ahir or any d**n body are able steal our proud history and heritage from us anymore and that nobody desrespects or derogates us or our reputation in front of the world ever again .Lets take bake what is rightfully ours starting from this.
All proud gurjars ,...take action against plagiarism of Gurjar history by rajpoots, earnestly and immediatly without further ado and not let this insult happen anymore what so ever at all