Was Sardar vallabh bhai patel a gurjar

[bharatbhai]

IN REALITY SHAHADA POPULATION SPEAK GUJARATI & HAS BEEN MISGIUDED BY THE LOCAL LEADERS FOR THEIR POLITICAL ADVATAGE. THE POPULATION PRACTICES LIFESTYLE OF GUJARAT, BUT THE EDUCATION MEDIUM IS MARATHI . THE YOUNGER GENERATION HAS ABSOLUTE THREAT OF LOOSING THE GUJARATI CULTURE. IT IS A CONVINIENT CHANGE BEING IMPOSED TO SUIT THE LEADERS POLITICAL STANDING. THE LEADERS FIND EASY TO RELATE GUJARAT WHEN IT SUIT TO THEIR BENEFIT FROM MAHARRASHTRA. SARADAR PATEL, CHIMANBHAI, KESHUBHAI WERE THEIR COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE BUT OF NO HELP IN MAHARASHTRA , THEN FOR POLITICAL CLOUT LOCAL LEADERS CONVINIENTLY SWITCHED THEIR LOYALTY OVER TO RAJESH PILOT, & NOW SACHIN PILOT. IN THE PROCESS COL. BAINSALA DITCHED THE COMMUNITY FOR HIS POLITICAL AMBITION . HENCE NOW THEY HAVE NO AGENDA BUT ROAMING WITHOUT POWER. TRYING TO RELATE AGAIN WITH GUJARAT WITH THE BLESSINGS OF ANNAPURNADEVI.

[singh]

Please refer the book titled "PATEL A LIFE" by Rajmohan Gandhi which throws some light on the ancestors of Sardar Patel:

"His mother Labda gave him birth in the house of her brother Doongerbhai Desai...........Labda's husband Jhaverbhai belonged not to Nadiad but to a village called Karamsad(twelve miles south of Nadiad and three miles west of the town of Anand), where he tilled a ten acre plot and owned a small house.

He and Labda and all their relatives were Patidars. Centuries earlier their ancestors had migrated from the far north and taken possession of a sandy yet rich stretch of soil called the charotar...........the Patidar ancestors -possibly linked to the formidable Huns who swept down into India from the northwest in the sixth century or to the Gujars of Punjab or to both-cleared the Charotar woods, improved the sandy ground with dung manure and cart loads of black soil.........they also soldiered for nearby chieftains......more tangibly, they obtained a clear title of the lands they had occupied, and were therefore called Patidars-holders of a land title - or Patels.

The Patidars have alternated, in their customs, between eating meat and abstaining from it, between paying bride-price and demanding dowry from a bride's parents, between permitting widow-remarriage and banning it..........while changing their customs, the Patidars retained their Hindu religion, ralling together against outsiders, male supremacy, silence before elders and an individual's subservience to the (extended) family but independance before the world. Bluntness in speech, an unconcern about dress and appearance, a sense of equality within the fold that turned the village into " a collectivity of Patidar brothers" and a sense of superiority towards non-Patidars, a self-image of tough independent men...natarally given to ruling over others" marked the Patidar character.

A British traveller, Bishop Reginald Heber, noted in 1825 that the "Potails of Guzerat", as he described the Patidars,
"are very inferior in dress, manners and general appearance to the Zamindars of Hindostan. Their manner, however, though less polished, is more independent; here, instead of standing with joined hands in the presence of a superior, they immediately sit down..........


{Note: The above quoted text from the book shows the character of Patel's ancestors which is very similar to Gujars .....that in due course the Gujars who migrated grom North India to Gujrat started calling themselves as Patidar or Patel. In Rajasthan, Patel is a very common world used by Gujars .......in every village there is a title (Patel) given to some dominant family and this title of 'Patel" runs in the family and is transfered to the eldest son of the family. In areas around Bharapur, Gujars are popularly called as "Patel" by other communities. It is similar to "Chaudhary"which was used to be in the NCR and Western Uttar-Pradesh as a title both by Gujars and Jats but now a days in the entire Northern India "Chaudhary" is being used as sirname by Jats.}

[singh]

The Gujars of North India also have two main devisions- (i)Laur Gujar and (ii) Khari Gujar that is very similar to today's (i) Leuva Patidar and (ii) Kadava Patidar of Gujrat.

[Ashok Harsana]

yess lor, khari are just another names for leva , karva branches of Gujjars

[Devendra]

Yes, many Gujjar's (Gurjar's) stay on Maharashtra, Gujrat, MP border. Patel, Patil, Choudhary, Gurjar is surname. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel was also visited to Shahada in 1931 for Gurjar Sabha. One more think do you know "Gurjar Mahasabha" in India, and its past presiident Mr. Annasaheb P K Patil, he is leader of Gurjar (Gujjar) samaj which is stay in Shahada and sorrounding area.

Thanks,
Devendra

[Ashok Harsana]

Yeah we know that he is the current president of Gurjar samaj, he is a famous politician as well