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Post by deepakdedha on Mar 23, 2008 19:56:57 GMT 5.5
Hi everyone,
Dear gurjars my friend jasbir research on sardar vallabh bhai patel.He meets with the grand daughter of sardar vallabh bhai patel Mrs.maniben patel.and Maniben patel told him that they are kurmis not gurjar.and in the village nadiad there are no gurjar live.So how is possible that sardar patel was a gurjar.If anyone of
my friend have any authentic proof with sardar patel that he was a gurjar then share with us.thank u.
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Mar 24, 2008 12:33:14 GMT 5.5
Hello Deepak,
Your friend is misinforming you, and is trying to spread wrong info among all. I dont know the reason, but you can ask Jasbir to call me up and I'll ask him a few questions about Sardar Patel's family and u all will see "how right he is".
The fact is Nadiad is still populated with Gurjars and they simply call themselves gurjars and not leva patidars or kurmi, though they sometimes call them as Leva Gurjars but never call them leva patidars. Leva patidars (though originated from gurjars only) now consider themselves a totally different community and tried to include Sardar patel in them many a times.
But very well educated and well known Gujjars like Rajesh pilot claimed that Sardar Patel was a Gurjar, and many gujjar leaders from Kashmir said that when they met patel, he himslef told them that I am also a gujjar and hence we are related by blood.
Apart from that there are thousands of Gurjars from Gujart who have confirmed that Sardar Patel was a Gurjar by caste and he was not a Leva Patidar.
BTW You can call him kunbi as Kunbi is more a profession than a caste name, the farmers and anybody taking farming as a profession was called a kunbi in 18th century.
Regards
Ashok harsana
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Post by deepakdedha on Mar 24, 2008 17:52:47 GMT 5.5
Dear Ashok bhai ji,
both of you(jasbir and you)is like my elder brothers.dear today i talk with jasbir bhai and he told me that he know that sardar vallabh bhai patel was a gurjar but he surprised when sardar patels grand daughter dont aknowledge that sardar patel was a gurjar.she dont want
to comment on this topic.if you want to contact with jasbir bhai then call him in this no:09999890089.thanks.
regards
deepak dedha
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Post by randhir on Apr 16, 2008 14:41:53 GMT 5.5
Hi Ashok/Deepak
I am Randhir singh from UP and currently putting up in Pune and come again with the discussion about Sardar Patel.
Here are some brothers from Gujrat working with me and so i tried to know about Sardar Patel
so finnally after great discussion I came to know that Patel was kurmi even after this discussion i was trying to prove that Patel belongs to gujjar community only so again I surfed net but in the last I found one column that proves Patel was kurmi.
If I am wrong Pls correct me.
Regards
Randhir
09881644368
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Post by deepakdedha on Apr 17, 2008 15:49:23 GMT 5.5
HI Ranbir Bhai
Brother if you really want to know that sardar patel was a gurjar or not then you should visit
sardar patels village.Because you will find only gurjars in nadiad village it is confirm to many of
gujrats gujjar.In this area you cant find any kurmi village and one thing i want to tell that kurmi is a frofession not a cast in gujrat secound kurmi and kunbi not lives in gujrat they lives only bihar and MP.thanks for visit this form.
regards
deepak dedha
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Post by Virendra Singh on May 27, 2008 10:31:24 GMT 5.5
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Post by AP Singh on Jun 3, 2008 20:51:18 GMT 5.5
Please read the book “The Indomitable Sardar” published by Bhartiya Vidya Bhawan and written by Mr. KL Punjabi (ICS)who worked under Sardar Patel in Home Ministry and knew him very well.
It is a very good book and we may learn many things to get motivated and to behave bravely in adverse condition from the great character of Iron Man of India.
I did not respond to this query earlier since Sardar Patel belonged to India. We can only feel more prouder that he has proved that he had Imperial blood of Gujjars running in his veins and could handle the former vassals of British Empire well to integrate them in to Great India.
This is what is mentioned in this book about his birth:
Sardar Vallabbhai Patel belong to famous clan of Lewa Gujars who came from Punjab and occupied the rich charotar land between Mahi and Tapti rivers. They were man of strong passion and and high tempers and when aroused obeyed no law but that of their own.
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Post by AVISHAHADAMAHARASHTRA on Jun 3, 2008 22:11:52 GMT 5.5
THERE R SO MANY GUJARS ON GUJRAT MAHARASHTRA BOARDER HAVING SURNAME AS PATEL,(WHICH IS ONLY CAME IN MEDIAVAL INDIA AS TITLE) ALL LEWA/ REVA /DORE ETC ARE GUJAR..HENCE SARDAR PATEL IS ALSO .HE ALSO CAME TO SHAHADA (MAHARASHTRA) FOR GUJAR SAMAJ ADHIWESHAN IN 1931
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jun 7, 2008 20:20:19 GMT 5.5
Pause to any doubts related to Sardar Patel's Origin: Read Navbharat Times (1st june). There published a half page interview of Colonal Bainsla on the editorial page Where it is very cleary written that Sardar Patel was a Gujjar Regards Ashok Harsana gurjar.co.nr |
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Post by Amit Bhati on Dec 17, 2008 17:21:16 GMT 5.5
Pause to any doubts related to Sardar Patel's Origin: Read Navbharat Times (1st june). There published a half page interview of Colonal Bainsla on the editorial page Where it is very cleary written that Sardar Patel was a Gujjar Regards Ashok Harsana gurjar.co.nrIf still some one has some doubt he can purchase this book Title: The Indomitable Sardar Author: K L Panjabi No of Pages: 296 Index: 3 Pages Paper Back Price: Rs. 50 /- www.bhavans.info/store/bookdetail.asp?bid=407&bauth=K+L+Panjabi |
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