Please talk about present to make the future good.

[satyendragurjar]

It is meaning less to talk and do futile exercise by discussing who celebrity or prominent leader or player etc belong to 'Gujar' community. It is also not a time of discussing history of a bygone era.

No doubt GURJARS are one of the most ancient,royal/ruler,fighter,brave and agriculture based community who have their well defined origin,history,culture and recognition. But all of us, wherever we are, must work together and join hands for the development,awareness and education of our brothers who are living in small villages.
We should try and work hard by all possible means to ensure adequate social, educational, economical and political representation in every sphere of daily life.

Ateet ke gourav ki jugaali karne ya vartman sharmindgi par chhaati kootne ka vakt nahi hai yah !GURJARO ko apne pichdepan ko door karne tatha bhavishya ko ujjaval banane ke liye lacchedaar bhaashano/baato ki nahi, thos karya-yojana va saaf neeyat se sahi disha me nisvarth bhagirathee prayaso ki jarurat hai……!

Shikhar choone ki kaamna rakhne vaale samaaj ko kaabil aur niji mahatvakanchaon se alag soch rakhne vaale swayam sevako ki jarurat hoti hai……!

Dhanush ki pratyancha chadh chuki hai….. yadi aap apne samaaj se prem karte hai to us se chhal nahi kar sakte…..hame apni karnee se ese saabit karna hoga….

Duniya aage badh rahi hai…samay aa gaya hai ki samaaj ke vartmaan va bhavishya ko gauravshaali banaane ke liye teer ko poori taakat, doordarshita va taiyari se bade lakchya ki oar chooda jaye……!

[AP Singh]

If you dont do ateet ki jugali you can not digest your comsume food. Jugali is necessity and not a hobby.
Also please dont believe all the information what you have been told by British historians like Col Todd. and Risley. They have also spread misinformation about Gujjars to serve their own purpose and if you dont do the Ateet ki Jugali you can not bring the truth.

Foe example Col todd has written that Dev Narayan was born in 13th. century and to a Gujjar mother and to a rajput father. whereas the truth is God Narayan was born in 968AD when the Rajputs were not supposed to be rulers at all. His father was a Gujjar Chauhan and was born by a Gujjar father ( Baghji Rawat) and a Rajput wife. Hence the grand mother of God Dev Narayan was a Rajput woman and his father and grand father both were Gujjar Chauhans.

The importance of God Narayan is that he united Gujjars at atime when Gujjar Chauhans asserted independence from Gujjar Pratihar empire but the family of God Dev Narayan reamined loyal to Gujjar Pratihar empire and later paid the price for the same when his father, grandfather and uncles were killed in fight with the Raja DurjanSal of Pratihar Gujjar and Raja Beesal Dev Chauhan remained nuetral and did not help the grand grand children of his own brother Manadal, who founded Mandal Garh.

Hence the correct words shoud be " Ateet ki Jugali karo, vartman men Mehanat karo dedication ke sath with a clear goal in mind, aur age badho apne laksh kee aur is kadar age badho ki your future generations can also do Jugallee of your present like our ancestors has left a golden past of our race for us all to discuss. ( to do jugalee in your words).

[Gorsi Shahzada]

Mein A.P.Singh bhai say mukamal ittefaq karta hoon kyukay jho qaum apni tarikh bhool jati hay tau doosray us ka geogrphia badal daitay hain.Apny mazi aur hai ko dekh kar ap ko is baat ka bakhoobi andaza ho jaye ga.Mazi say sabq nahin lain gay tau mustaqbil shandar kaisay ho ga.Hamay kabhi mayus nahin hona chahiya kyunkay "ZINDGI ZINDA DILLI KA NAAM HAY-MURDA DIL KYA KHAK JIYA KARTAY HAIN".

[Ashok Harsana]

Hi Satyendra,

You wrote a gud detailed articles at many places 'no doubt'.

But You can not afford to forget your past. History has a habit to repeat itself. How can u forget that we are poor in the present just because we lost our everything to save our motherland.

Rajputs can afford to forget their past becasue they hardly have any good thing to remember, But Gujjars have to keep their past alive so that they could try to regain their past position an glory in the future.

One can not achieve anything until he realises what he is.

And we dont have to do anythng special to get our past glory back, We juts need good leadership and educatio. With these two things we can easily beat any other community within next 20 years. I can bet over it.

Gujjars have a few very special qualities which any oher community members can hardly posses.

They are Brave by nature, and Physically better than any other caste or community.

If educated properly (even with average education I mean) their communication and convincing skills are exemplery.

They can go to much higher extents to achieve a particular aim. They know how to lead people to achieve a particular goal.

and Gujjar are mostly perfectionist they know how to perform a particular task in the best possible way.

There are many other qualities which will be known to the world in a short span of time.

Satyendra Brother, The future is ours, you will see numerous software engineers apart from the present real estate agents, transporters and milkmen. We can smell it in delhi NCR where Gujjars are the most powerful, rich people (and now well educated professionals as well) with very high social standing.

[satyendragurjar]

I respect and welcome the views expressed by learned members of this site……!

When I talk about present it includes the period of 60 years i.e. 1947 to 2007 where every citizen of this country was free to choose education and job of his choice, was free to participate in the political system, was free to do any business…….and so on !

During this phase of democratic India, agriculture based communities such as Yadavs, Jats, Kurmi etc. and even Mali in the Northern India have been able to make good progress in every sphere of life.

But think for a moment seriously and compare Gujars with these communities in today’s context…!

I do accept that I have limited exposure and knowledge of Gujars residing in the NCR (Delhi and its surrounding area), Haryana and Western Uttar-Pradesh.

Will anybody provide me following information so that I can re-consider my opinion and strategy to discuss at this social platform and also get involved in ‘Jugaali of our golden past’………………?

•How many Gujars have qualified Civil Services Examination in the last 60 years from the area highlighted above?

•How many IAS and IPS officers are posted in the national capital i.e. the power centre of the country belonging to Gujar community?

•How many Gujars have been appointed Governor of states, vice chancellor of Universities, member of Union Public Service and State Service Commissions in the last 60 years?

•How many judges have been appointed in the Supreme Court and High courts belonging to Gujar community in the last 60 years?

•How many professors are there in Delhi University and JNU belonging to Gujar community?

•How many DOCTORS are there in All India Institutes of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) belonging to Gujar community?

•How many STUDENTS are there in IIT, Delhi belonging to Gujar community?

•How many STUDENTS are there in Indian Institute of Management belonging to Gujar community?

*How many GIRLS have taken professional degree like MBBS, Engineering, MBA, LLB in the last 60 years or presently studying for the same?

•How many MANUFACTURING UNITS (excluding dairy) have been established by Gujars in the area highlighted above?

•How many Member of Parliament have been elected by Gujars in the area highlighted above?

•How many Gujars are there in the Rajya-sabha?

The questionnaire may be endless but it will again be a futile exercise because the answer of most of the questions is known to everybody living in present world…..!

I know my dear friends that the truth is always sour that is why we avoid talking in present context and do ‘Jugaali’ of a bygone era…………!

The idea is not to discourage any one…….but we should accept reality and do efforts to increase our representation and participation in modern India ………!

And the best way of achieving the goal is education and awareness…..!

I welcome your valuable comments ………..!