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Post by deepak dedha on Dec 2, 2009 13:02:47 GMT 5.5
hello dear AP singh bhai sahab
i want to lounch a comic book on our great samrath mihir bhoj mahan.so i need your help on this topic.i want to get all info about mihir bhoj like,his father name,birth place,his mother name, and all about him.so its a request to you pls give me info about mihir bhoj.
regards,
deepak dedha
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 2, 2009 15:45:33 GMT 5.5
hello dear AP singh bhai sahab i want to lounch a comic book on our great samrath mihir bhoj mahan.so i need your help on this topic.i want to get all info about mihir bhoj like,his father name,birth place,his mother name, and all about him.so its a request to you pls give me info about mihir bhoj. regards, deepak dedha Dear Deepak, I would like to add only what is not written about in History but has well attested historical documents certifying the following:. 1. Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan has finished rashtrakuts forever and after his period of Gujjar Empire, Rashrakuts history is only imagination of the Indian Historians. 2. Kabul was part of his capital which was lost for a short duration from Gujjar control during and begining the reign of Mahendra Pal, his son but later again included in AD 899 again in Gujjar Empire. 3 . Among all the known Emperors of India from the first century onwards, the Empire of Gujjar Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan was the largest, except that of Kanishka, the Gujjar of Kushana Gotra. ( Some historians is of the opinion that Kanishka was from Khatana Clan of Gujjars). The outer boundries of Kanishka's Gujjar Kushana Empire were present day Georgia in Central Asia and present day Gujarat including Maharashtra and half of Karnataka.I am busy now a days in some of my office project and will certainly provide you information which you need. However you may ask specific questions and documentary support in the form of historical inscriptions/plates about my claims. Regards. AP Singh
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Post by NARESH GUJJAR on Dec 3, 2009 21:58:37 GMT 5.5
HI ,DEEPAK , GETTING READY TO LAUNCH YOUR PROJECT . GOOD . TELL WHAT ALL HAPPENING .NOW FREE. OK WILL TALK LATER
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 4, 2009 14:24:08 GMT 5.5
Dear Deepak, The information required by you may be found even on Wikipedia.
Here I am providing the information of origin of Gurjara Pratihara. Nagara ( Gujjar Rulers of Nagavihara), Bajjad or Varajjara ( The Gujjar rulers of Vajra Vihara) are also the same as of Pratihara.
As per the following historical record the Nagara, Varajjara and Pratihara clan of Gujjars seems to be the sub branch of the rulers of Khotan ( Khatana) which was one of the main branch of Gujjar Kushanas. It is clear that Vijaya Simha the Gujjar Khatana ruler made Pota-rya a great Vihara which is called as Potohar region of present day Pakistan. Similarly Bajaur ( Vajra Vihara), and Nagarhar ( Nagavihara) are located in present day NWFP and Afghanistan and the Gujjar rulers of these areas were Nagara and Varajjara Gujjars. Nagara and Varajjara are one and the same is also supported by the Gwalior inscription of Gujjar Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan.
The Gujjar rulers of Pota-rya Vihara were called the Gujjar Pratihar. Here I would like to mention that All these Gujjar Gotras are ruling title of Gujjar Rulers during the days of Gujjar Kushana Empire. According to the "Annals of Li-yul" ( Rockhill: Life of Buddha, pp.238 ff), Vijayasimha, the successor of Vijayvirya married Chinese Princess Pu-nye-shar, the daughter of the ruler of China. She was responsible for raiming silk worms much against the wishes of her husband, who later on repented for his deeds. He called from India the Bhikshu Sanghaghosa and made him his spritual adviser, and to atone for his wickedness he built the Po-ta-rya and Madza Caitya and a great Vihara ( Stein: Ancient Khotan, p 230)
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 4, 2009 15:25:12 GMT 5.5
1. Please see the Historical records about Rajatiraya ( Shah-nu-shahi, the official title of Gujjar Kushan Emperors).
The first concrete evidence of Khatana Gujjar is found in a document probably of the 3rd century, discovered by M. A. Stein at the site of Endere (facsimile in Stein, 1921, pl. xxxviii; transcription in Boyer and Senart, p. 249; tr. 1940, p. 137; cf. Emmerick, 1979, p. 168 and n. 7). It was written in a local Middle Indian dialect in Kharoṣṭhî script by Khotana maharaya rayatiraya hinajha Vij’ida Siṃha “General Vijida Simha, great king, king of kings of Khotan” in his tenth chuna (< Khot. kṣuṇa) “regnal year.” The Khotanese title hînâysa (pronounced hînâza, lit. “army leader”) is also attested in much later indigenous texts.
2. About the Nagara and Varajjara Gujjars refer the following books:
The history of the Gurjara-Pratihāras - Page 82 by Baij Nath Puri - India - 1986 - 246 pages ... refers to Nagara Bhattakumara of the Varjjara family, originally from ... Snippet view - About this book - Add to my shared library - More editions
Historical and Cultural Chronology of Gujarat - Page 248 by Manjulal Ranchholdlal Majmudar - Gujarat (India) - 1960 156 ), refers to Nagara Bhattakumara of the Varjjara family, originally from ... Snippet view - About this book - Add
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Post by deepak dedha on Dec 5, 2009 15:18:07 GMT 5.5
hello ap singh bhai sahab
thank you so much for give me lots of info about pratihars.i have a dought about nagars.because nagar is not our real subcast its nagdi(langdi).
regards
deepak dedha
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 8, 2009 12:32:15 GMT 5.5
Dear Ashok, Please refer the following:
1. In Gwalior inscription the word Nagara is mentioned for Nagari Gujjars. 2. In Skandpurana the Nagara Khand is about the Nagara Gujjars. If you want to know more please initiate a thread at allempire.com where others ( Than Gujjars) can be involved in the discussion). 3. In Babarnama word Nagari is used for the ruler of Present Day udaipur. ( Nagada as the capital). Nagda ( Near Udaipur and not the one which is in MP, though the both the places must be included in old capital of Nagari Gujjar known as Nagada Valley) 4. In Gwalior inscription the Nagara is mentioned as the branch of Varajjara. The Old name of Kangda was Nagarkot ( The fort of Nagar Gujjars) and the pemple of Godess built there is called the Varrajaraeshwari Devi temple. 5. Gwalior and Nagada has exactly the same style of Vishnu Temples, called as sasbahu temple temples. It proves that both the places were ruled by Nagadi Gujjars. 6. The Area ruled by Nagari Gujjars was called Bagad ( During Gujjar Pratihar rulre), which is nothing but another name of Bajaur ( Vajra Vihara) and Nagda ( another name of Naga Vihara). Bajaur and Nangarhar were the placed ruled by these celebrated clans during the Gujjar Kushana Empire. 7. The rulers of Mathura during the Gujjar Kushan rule were Nagara Gujjars which are wrongly written as Nag dynasty by the Indian Historians. Mathura was the winter capital of Great Gujjar Kusahana. Peshawar was the capital and samarkand was the summer capital.
The Words Nagara, Nagar and Nagari ( Nagre, Nagde) are all the same and is a celebrated gotra of Gujjars.
One more thing i would inform you that Nagabhatta the Great started his winning campaign from Nagada ( the capital of Gujjar Nagaris) and not from Ujjain as is written by many historians. That is the reason he called at many places and Nagavaloka, that is the ruler of Nagada valley, the valley which joins the present day Gujarat to present day Malwa.
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 8, 2009 12:56:01 GMT 5.5
hello ap singh bhai sahab thank you so much for give me lots of info about pratihars.i have a dought about nagars.because nagar is not our real subcast its nagdi(langdi). regards deepak dedha Dear Deepak, What do you think about the word Gurajara. Is it Gujar, Guzer, Guzr, Juzr, Jurz, Gojar or Gurz? Col Tod had the word a Goujar and the others has written as Goojar Goojur. Every word whivh is more tha 2000 year old and is used in many languages and the regions of present day India and Central asia will have that much variation. So similary Nagara, Nagada, Nagari, Nagadi all are the same. At one place Sublufria ( a translation from Sanskrit to Arabic, Arabic to Persian and to Persian to English the word Gurjara is written as Subkufria, which is mentioned as the highest caste of India in 9th. century. Now The brahmins does not accept that. They say that these is no such caste exist in India. That confusion can be removed by the further recording of Al-Idrishi who also says that all the kings of India belong to this caste and Emperor of India maintains a very large cavalry of 36 lakhs warriors. So one has to to take this fact in to consideration to conclude that the word Sub-kufria is nothing but Gujjars only since they only had that large army in India that time. Similary Nagara Gujjars has a well attested history ( So significant that Skandapurana has a separate khand for them known as Nagarakhanda) and Guptas were one of their Fuedatory kings ( Samatas) during the Gujjar Kushana Empire.
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Post by AP Singh on Dec 8, 2009 13:09:12 GMT 5.5
hello ap singh bhai sahab thank you so much for give me lots of info about pratihars.i have a dought about nagars.because nagar is not our real subcast its nagdi(langdi). regards deepak dedha For further reading on the subject matter to remove your doubts you may have you can refer to the following historical references, which is used to clarify that it is clan and not used the city. 1. Dabistte-i-Manihib, II. 142. 2. The meaning of their name which the Nagaras of Gujar At approve is city or coartly. Forty years ago (i.e. 1865) in a list prepared for Colonel Jacob (Gov. Sel. New Series XXIII. 29) of a total of 1263 Nagara only 843 are entered as Brahmans. The facts that there are Nagaras among Gujurs . that NAgaras are 60,000 strong among the Gurjjaras of Bulundshahr (N. W. P. Gazetteer, III. 48) You may refer to Bombat Gazzeteer to find these facts recorded.
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Post by Veer Gurjeshwar on Dec 14, 2009 16:27:00 GMT 5.5
Dear All Gurjar Chaudhry
We remember Samrat Mihir Bhoj as our one of greatest ruler. But we highlight this name. We remember Sardar Patel, Rajesh Pilot and all other great leaders. But Samrat Mihir Bhoj is a ideal for our community.
We should highlight his name in front of all public forum, then people will know our glorious time. This will motivate our young generation and they will feel proud as Gurjar.
We should highlight all our Gurjar rulers and This will make a difference.
Please do work to mention NH-24 Gurjar Samrat Mihir Bhoj Marg in Golden Words and visible to all.
Nobody knows that this NH-24 is in the name of Mihir Bhoj. If in delhi every road is known with its name like aurangzab marg, Akbar Marg etc. Then why Gurjar Samrat Mihir Bhoj Marg is still asking its identity?
Dear Harsana Ji, I raised this voice previously in Samaj Sandesh Board. But recently visited Delhi and found that we only talk on this type of Bulletin boards, but no body is keen to do the work in favour of community.
We Gurjars are prosperous and politically strong in delhi in comparison of previous time.
Please do some effort for this work and meet Noida M.P. Ch. Surendra Singh Nagar, Anil Chaudhry ,M.L.A. and Sh. Nasib Singh, M.L.A. with some gurjar community dignities.
This work may be by your personal efforts, and all gurjars will be ready to contribute financially.
In 9 Km Stretch there should be 6-7 caption in between of Divider and at over bridge also.
It will be milestone for Gurjars.
Please raise our voice and support for Greater Delhi State. We oppose harit Pradesh. We Gurjars need Greater Delhi Pradesh.
This demand should be raise from the Gurjar Mahasabha and other sabha forums. Media should recognize our voice as like Gurjar agitation. So please dont waste your time to write artcles on our past. We all know.
Our aim should be to inform about Our Glorious time to the world.
Jai Veer Gurjar.
Veer Gurjeshwar Jai Gurjar Land Jai Greater Delhi Pradesh
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