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Post by Amit Singh Bhati on Jun 30, 2010 22:15:06 GMT 5.5
Jo bhi ladke ya ladki dusri biradri me shadi karte hai vo maha neech aur Zaleel hai unko gurjar keahlane ka koi hak nahi hai 
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jun 30, 2010 22:34:13 GMT 5.5
Warning: Mr Amit Singh Bhati, while writing on a community forum, you are expected to be a little humble and decent. I hope you understand my concern and will act accordingly while writing again to our community forum in future.
First official warning issued to Mr Amit Singh Bhati
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Post by Ms Verma on Jun 30, 2010 23:28:46 GMT 5.5
DEAR Gurjar Brothers,  REGARDING Wazirpur episode….!!I am totally STRICTLY against of Elopement and intercaste marriage for both girls & boys. Action of these girls must left mental tension and shame to their family members. Actually Killing crap ruin future of 3 young buddies of our community.These boys are only 19 & 20 years old such a tender age…it was time for their future build up not future destroyd.They could be a future engineer or doctor but they are murderers today. Action of few IMMATURE,IRRESPONISBLE girls ruin whole family future. God !!!! “”What we are seeing today is These stupid girls affects our past,present and now we let them AFFECTS OUR FUTURE also. “”[/i]
WHY ??
Killing was far too easy punishment for them(acc. to me). Killing them were not set any example for anything instead they’re set free of any social obligations/disgarce they left to their family. Although,family needs to boycott them completely. They had to breark every connection with them. Community/neighbour…everyone had to do same with them. No stake claim on other benefits that particular community offers and Personal property.Family members were need to be strong and tough towards them and provide no financial help in setting up new home ,cash ,jwellery etc etc.
Believe me, this may be enough for them. They will come back on their knees for begging forgiveness.BY THE WAY,we all know ratio of successful love marriages(almost nill).
# Although I am not supporting killing but yeah 3 murders or 4 murders…have gonna get same punishment …so why the hell BIHARI is still alive ??..(hunnhhhh ??)
@ Lohmod Bhai
“”But how we can take action on it.
Moreover, what you think if a lady elop after the age if 21, or marrige a non gujar after 21 without the parents consent””
AGREE…..There is no guarantee.No guarantee at all. What I believe is immaturity doesn’t relate with age. If a person is stupid,he/she is remain stupid whether he/she will be 18 or 21.
The only way to stop this is let youth extremists by educating them by modern education. People in the grass root have to be made aware and educated and radicate the social backwardness
Seond parents never communicate with kids about their so called personal life, they in-spite of knowing kids' problems (mentally problems in this case only) tend to ignore such things and at last things go out of hand. Parents never care with whom they meet (they are always there to scold him/her for this but you know what, kids go in opposite direction, and everyone does same)
#””General mindset comment””: I take my words Back .
@ Harsana Bhai : Thank you
@ A.P Singh Bhai:Well said,well raised point,fully agree and supports you.
@ Bhati Bhai : Agree with you too.
Regards
Ms. Verma
P.S :
Mine Views.If wrong, sorry in advacnce.
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Post by gauravrousa on Jun 30, 2010 23:47:24 GMT 5.5
plz Harsana brother plz close this subject honour killing in gujjars,,,lock this...it is now became: controversial topic..hav no future to discuss about start new topic,,,EVERY person hav its own views and IDEAS ND hav a different thinking nature,,,,some r broad minded,,some different......but lastly according to me I PRAISED THAT 3 BOYS,,MANDEEP NAKUL,and ANKIT....
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Post by Ms Verma on Jun 30, 2010 23:48:35 GMT 5.5
One more thing,
I AM STRICTLY AGAINST INTRA/SAME GOTRA MARRIGES.
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jul 1, 2010 10:35:45 GMT 5.5
plz Harsana brother plz close this subject honour killing in gujjars,,,lock this...it is now became: controversial topic..hav no future to discuss about start new topic,,,EVERY person hav its own views and IDEAS ND hav a different thinking nature,,,,some r broad minded,,some different......but lastly according to me I PRAISED THAT 3 BOYS,,MANDEEP NAKUL,and ANKIT.... Mr Rousha, This is our ("Gurjar community's") discussion forum. We are not supposed to quit this thread just because it has become controversial. You may notice that the topic we chose is controversial already. This forum is meant to discuss these complicated current issues only. We need to discuss the solution out. In my opinion almost everybody on this thread agrees upon the social boycott of the "girl/boy" opting to elope for getting married. AP singh Bhai is quite close to the solution of this problem. As per his suggestions case no.1 (where a child manages his/her parents for a love arranged marriage.) and case no.3 (complete boycott of the children opting to go against their family's wish) are feasible solutions. I M NOT AGAINST LOVE MARRIAGES AT ALL, But parents' wish matters the most. And Yes different mindsets, different thoughts and different backgrounds....thats what we are today...The Gujjar community is now a mix of advanced + traditional people, so we dont need to run from any subject just to avoid arguements. But the way should be polite. (PLEASE) |
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jul 1, 2010 10:44:25 GMT 5.5
Ms Verma,
I'll appreciate if you please dont use any "SUCH" word in future. You will be surprised to know that Gujjars have a sizeable population in Bihar and they are doing very well in politics and other fields.
Answer to the question:
The guy who eloped with Shobhna (and left her after a few days) named "Raza" stays in mustafabad (near Yamuna Vihar). He is safe as he was provided "Y" category security by Delhi Police. Ironically A gujjar ACP of Delhi Police was appointed as the overall incharge of his security and the Judge requested that ACP (my father) to not to engage any GUJJAR security personal in this particular case.
So I hope you understand that a guy who is being secured by 9 Constables, 2 Inspectors and one ACP as the security incharge is surely SAFE.
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Post by Ms Verma on Jul 1, 2010 21:21:50 GMT 5.5
Harsana Bhai,
I apologise for using such kind of language. Never gonna used it again for sure in future.
Warm Regards
Ms. Verma
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jul 2, 2010 0:09:02 GMT 5.5
Thanks for understanding Sister.
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Post by Krishan Kumar Gurjar - Lohmod on Jul 2, 2010 10:10:39 GMT 5.5
Hi Ashok Harsana Bhai,
Glad to know about your father, I am feeling Great !
Thanks and a very Good post !
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