Gurjar Directory(Gotras)

[AP Singh]

Dear Deepak,
Original gotra is Dode. In english it is called DOR. Dedha, Dedhar, Dodhi, dodhe are the other variations of the same. Dor is mentioned as one of thev 36 rajkulas of tenth century records. Presently I have no other information. Please let me know of you have anything more than this.
It could be some place whete Dode must have ruled. Like Salumbre are the ranas of Salambar, Nangde are the Rana of Nagda, Gorsis are Ranas of Gor etc.

There is another celebrated Gotra of Gujjar Pratihars and that Mandar Mandras were the Ranas of Mnadawar and were probably expelled by Gujjar Chauhans after achieving their independence from Gujjar partihar empire.

Near Delhi, These Mandars have severly defeated the initial forces of Babar and Babar had to send 4000 of his choicest cavalry to defeat them. Many Mandars were captured and half buried under ground and then killed by arrows to spread terror.
Gor gotra of Gujjars is found among these 36 rajkuls. Gor was the name of the region near Ajmer diring Gujjar Pratihar empire. During the time of Nagabhatta the Great, the Gujjar Pratihar king of Malwas, the Gor of Ajmer, Poshwals
( Poshwal, the ruler of Pushkar) went to Pamer region to protect the frontiers of India. Gor ( Gorsingh or Gorsi), Poshwal, Chechi should be a branch of Gujjar Chauhans since they were the rulers of Ajmer region before the Gujjar Chauhans moved their capital from Sakambri to Ajmer after the fall of Gujjar pratihar Empire. Similarly Dedhes could be a branch of Pratihars.

Ghori was from Ghor which was named by Gor Gujjars, who were also called Ghorsingh or Ghorsi. Similarly Nagarhar of Afghanistan ( Nagraha, Nagada) is named by Nangde Gujjars in 6th. century who were Ranas of nagada till the Rana Uday Singh Nangree), who sacrificed his life alogwith 12000 of his cavalry defending the country against the forces of Babar. Now Nagarhar is renamed as Jalalabad and is a district of Afganistan and more than 50% of population is still Gujjars there. Bajaur in Afghanistan is named Bajad ( Ranas of Vagad in Marwar during Gujjar Pratihar empire) and there also more than 50% population are still Gujjars.

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[deepak dedha]

Dear Ap Singh ji

thank you dear for give me lot of information about my gotra.yes dear we are the branch of pratihars(gate keeper)because we are the pratihar of lord ram as i know.i want to ask you one thing that mohommed ghori was a gurjar of gor (gorsi) gotra.and what about prithviraj chouhan becouse you wright that after the fall of gurjar pratihar empire chouhan moved thier capital from sakambri to ajmer.and prithviraj chouhan originaly from ajmer.and there are only bajar and nagaar gurjar found in afganistan.pls reply me

thank you

regards
deepak dedha

[deepak dedha]

dear ap singh ji

dear i want to know what is your source of gurjar history can u tell me.pls reply

deepak dedha

[AP Singh]

Dear Deepak,

There were the following prominemt Gotras of Gujjars in around 6th. century.
1. Gujjar Chalukyas
2. Gujjar Chauhans.
3. Gujjar Pratihars
4. Gujjar Parmars.
5. Gujjar Chawra ( Chapotkat)
6. Gujjar Maitrak

The Gujjar Chadellas, Gujjar Guhilots and Gujjar Tanwars formed their kingdoms later during the expansion of Gujjar empire.

They were having their independent kingdoms and that area was called Gujjar Desha. They were probably pushed to these areas by the invading Huns. Huns were later assimilated among Gujjars because that only equal could be assimilated among equals. If you want to know the history and bravery of Huns see the picture Attila the Hun and you will realise that the Huns were capable of conquering the whole world. In India the Huns were defeated at the time of Gujjar Samrat Mihir Bhoja the Great by his fuedatory king Gujjar Bahuk Dhawal Solanki . Among Gujjars the name of Bahuk Dawal is still preserved. The actual meaning of Dhawal is the bright but among Gujjars it is most Powerfull. If two Gujjar children are fighting they will invariable use his in their argument that apne aapko bahut dhawal mat samajh .

Aound 6th. century the Gujjar king Siluk of Chalukya Gotra from Navsari ( near Surat) defeated the Arab invaders and allthe Gujjars rallied behind him.

Around the same time the Emperor Harsh Wardhan of Gupta Empire attacked the young Gujjar Maitark prince. Immedaitelt The Dadda Gujjar ( From Bharuch of Chauhan Gotra ) came to his rescue and Harsha was not only defeated but had to give his daughter in marriage to the Maitarak prince.

Dadda became the leader of Gujjars and all the Gujjars rallied behind him. Later during the reign of Gujjar king Vasudeva Chauhan one Brahmin Chach was able to get one of his fuedatory at Kabul by winning Jats and Meds. His son Dahir who is reffered as Shutolo (Shudra, because of his faulty birth), by the Chinese scholar Huen Tsang, made the condition of Jats and Meds miserable. These Jats and Meds starting supporting the arab invaders at that stage and Mohammad Bin Kasim was able to get control of Kabul, the territory which was part of Gujjar Empire.
These Arab invaders later started to raid the main Gujjar kingdoms and probably the Gujjar Chauhans were not able to stop them. That time Nagabhatta the Great Gujjar of Pratihar gotra of Malwa appeared on the scene and chased these Arabs to their own domains. All these Gujjar kingdoms rallied behind him and Gujjar Pratihar kingdoms was formed which was later extended up to Kabul, Barma and Kerala.

In 954 AD the Gujjar Chauhans revolted and asserted independence from the Gujjar Pratihar Empire but was suppressed by Gujjar Parmars of Malwa. Later the Gujjar kingdom was divided in to so many small states, including that of Gujjars like Gujjar Chandellas of Kalinjar, Gujjar Solankis of Patan, Gujjar Chauhans, Gujjar Tanwars of Delhi,Gujjar parmars of Malwa. You can read about them in the history of India up to 14th. century by replacing the rajput word by Gujjar since Rajput word is inserted by the British regime to serve their pwn purpose. Later During the Mughal period the Gujjars were forced in to farming since they were a bigger threat to Mughals than anybody else. Rajput word you can not find in original historical record up to 14th. century and if you are able to find anywhere please inform me. During Mughal period some of Gujjars started hiding their caste and in Maharashtra they started calling themselves an Kunbi, In Rajasthan Many Gujjars like Badgujjars of Alwar , left their kingdoms and started calling themselves as Rajput since Gujjars were supposed to killed if found.
This situation got repeated after the 1857 revolt was crushed by the Britishers and all the males of many Gujjar villages were hanged. That time some Gujjars started calling themselves as Jat to save their life. You must have noticed that earlier the Gujjars had a tendecy to hide their caste and this was reason for that.

My source of information is not one place and if you ask specifically I can privide you all the authentic links.

[deepak dedha]

Dear AP singh ji

dear thanks 4 give me information.yes dear you can provide me all authentic links.

regards

deepak dedha ;D

[Ashok Harsana]

Deepak,

Dedha as the name says means one who takes the one and half share. Its an old saying among gurjars that Dedhes took the one and half and Adhane got only half. Its not just a syaing, it actually shows us the partition among these two gotras. Though it is very hard to know where this partition took place but it is very much sure that it happened soemwhere near Haryana and Punjab.

This is also 100% sure that Dedhe are the descendents of Royal Pratihars.

The original gotra of royal family of pratihars was Salumbare. Although the pratihars consited of many other Gurjars gotras like Tomars*, Nagdis and Kushans. It means that the Pratihars gruop was lead by Tomar or tuar Gurjars but the family which was ruling had a family name salumbre (or Lumber). Salumbar is a city in the district Udaipur in Southern Rajasthan(very near to the present border of gujrat).
*Tomars came to India as white huns (Hepthalites) under Tomaran or Torman or Tour(k)han (khan or han had the same meaning or was the similar title). They were hapthalites who were forced into india by the invasion of Gok-Turks in around 450 AD. The Rouran also called as Juan juans or TanTans or (Rors or Aroras of present day) who were the rulers of mid asia came to rescue their fudatories (hepthalites) under their local commander Chu-khan or Chuhan (who most probabaly was the of descendent of Kushans). Chu-han had was repelled back by Gok-Turks in around 454 AD. Chu-han was forced to enter India but his exhausted and weak army was again defeated by samudragupta. In 467 Hepthalites under TourHan again had to enter the indian borders to save their lives from very strong Gok-Turks. This time they succeeded in breaking the weak Gupta empire and got mixed into the Hindu population as kshatiryas. As they originally belonged to the Kushans (who were Gurjars) they were also included among gurjars and they changed the indian history forever after that by ruling India for the next 1000 years as Grujars(500 AD to 1300 AD) and Rajputs(after 1300 AD). The Rouran forces which came with chuhan weer called chauhans and forces which came under TourHan were called tours or tomars or tanwars.
Links
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouran
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushana
www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=3248

BTW there is juts no possibility that pratihars included chauhans. This was the reason(or consequnce) of the natural envy between these two groups.

Is it clear Now?? Write again for any further doubt related to this topic.

Regards,

Ashok Harsana

[deepak dedha]

Dear Ashok bhai,

dear first of all i want to thank u 4 making a good site where we gurjars can ask question about our history.i have few knowledge about gurjars history.and i have read all your thread in allempire .com,where u can proove that your history is 100% true.and rajput are the descendants of gurjars.now i come to the point i only ask one qustion that,was dedha name of lord laxmans
son.because our bhat told that dedha was the name of laxmans son.Is our bhat faker, if not then how it could be possible that dedhey is the descendants of pratihars.this is my last post on this topic.i hope that u dont mind with my post.

regards

deepak dedha

[Ashok Harsana]

Deepak Bro,

Pratihars were a group of kshatriyas (Gurjars), which assembled to fight out the invaders. That means it was a mere title, and not a particular surname.

The pratihars took their title after Laxman as he used to be the pratihar of Ram and Seeta during their exile. During their reign Pratihars made many inscriptions claiming that they were from Lord Ramas Family and called themselves RaghukulVanshi and Suryavanshi.

So there is only this authentic proof which can relate dedhas with Laxman.


Regards
Ashok harsana

[deepak dedha]

dear ASHOK bhai ji,

thank u bhai 4 give me this info.bhai aaj me apne dost ke gaon me gaya that to unke gaon ke pass ek purana sa kila(fort)bana hua tha maine pucha ki ye kiska hai to usne kaha ki ye kisi gurjar raja ka tha.usko sayed naam nahi pata tha.bhai uske gaon ka naam rampur hai bhati gotra ka gaon hai.ye gaon up me kasna ke pass hai.to aap wahan ke bare me kuch bata sakte hai ki wahan koi riyast thi ya nahi.wahan sirf bhati aur naagar gurjaron ke gaon hai.aur mujhe pata chala hai ki naagar gotra raja nain singh ki aulaad hai.pls reply

regards

deepak dedha

[deepak dedha]

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