fight between Gujjars and rajputs in ghaziabad

[gauravrousa]

bhaiyo ,,in panchayat election a gud fight and tension created between Gujjar caste and thakur(rajput) caste in bhojpur block of ghazaibad,in which gujjars beaten 5 people of rajput side very badly including pachayat candidate frm opposition side(thakur's).
with grace of mayawati on gujjars and gujjar strong hold in west up politics of UP....no case is registered against gujjars and they r free to move.now rajputs did a 84 villages panchayat... against gujjars and sate govt....let c wat'll happen

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[gauravrousa]

bhaiyo aane wale ek do din mai rajasthani gurjar aur meena aapas mai sab cheez bhula kar ek bhaichare ka sammelan kar rahe h in rajasthan,,,so aap logo kya view h is farzi sammelan par ..plz reply





but frm my side this meena aur Gurjaro mai koi similarity nhi h ,,,they hav no history , sirf rajasthan mai thode pad likh liye h isliye apne ko ucha samajne lage h ,,humara AUR meena ka kya mail..hum kanha h wo kanha ,,,

ye sab sammelan gujjoro k chhoot bhaiya neta kara rahe h jo is sammelan se apni pechan banana chahte h.but asliyat mai dil thodi na milenge,,as 3 murders of gurjars during agitation is free to move in dausa of meena samaj .

agar kisi dour(thread) mai agar ghath pad jaye ,,fir us ko juda nhi keh sakte,,ye hi fasala humara aur un k dil mai h ,,balki hum log toh delhi k aur hamara koi meenao se door door tak lena dena nhi h ...aur unhone hAMara kuch bigada bhi nhi h ..fir bhi hume nafrat h unse ,,aur ab khud rajasthan k gurjar khud unko apne gale laga rahe ho,,,,,, shame on u rajasthani gujjar

[bhadanavikram]

THANKS RAUSA JI AAPNE HUME YE INFORMATION DI, HUME IS NEWS KI UPDATE DETE REHNA, WAISE RAUSA JI 124 GAON KI PANCHAYAT ME MOSTLY GAON THAKURO KE HAI YA GURJARO KE. YE NEWS MODINAGAR KI HAI TO GURJARO KE GAON JADA HONE CHAHIYE. BAAKI DEKHTE HAI MAYAWATI KITNI HELP KARTI HAI GURJARO KI.

[gauravrousa]

bhai ye sab gaon thakuro k asli mai dholana mai aate h ..aur ye modinagar se kafi door h ,,aur modinagar mai thakuro ki koi khass ginti nhi h ..
ye dholana jagah dadri NTPC ( dadri se 25 km aage h ...) k piche janha aapne ne suna hoga ki anil ambani ne power plant k liye jagah li thi us par baad mai kuch tension ho gyi thi...wanha h ye jagah ,,, ye mostly thakur belt h aur is dholana ka ek corner gulaothi road se bhi touch h at gulaothi-hapur road,,,
sirf isi jagah k wajah se thakuro k population gini jati h loksabha ghaziabad mai...
but gujjar poulation is scattered in ghaziabad like loni,hapur,muradnagar,ghaziabad city,modinagar. etc

[gauravrousa]

bhaiyo ..vedpal singh thakur ko maywati ne apni party ka neta maan ne se inkar kar diya,,kyu ki wo apne ko police k samne BSP ka neta bol kar gujjoro ko arrest karne ka dabab bana raha tha,,,,phir kya tha mayawati k gujjar prem aur lagav k karan nikal diya us rajpoot ko party se aur uske khilaf 420 ki enquiry baitha di.....
reh gye akele thakur,,,,,ab kaun lag gaye ge inki naya par ...
pata nhi kyu log abhi bhi ''GUJJARo ko halke mai lete h ,, pata nhi kaun si galat femi mai je rahe h log''

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[CHAUHAN]

bhaiyo is tarah k chote mote jhgde kisi caste ka future badalne wale nhi...ye jhgde kuch b proov nhi ktey h. v r the best iske liye hume aise examples ki jrurat nhi h...aise examples aapko hr area me mil jaenge.ye gujjro ki pahchan h jaha rhte h apna hold bnake rhte h chahe opposition me thakur ho Jat ho ya koi b ho.
but hume is bare me gahrai se sochna chahiye in choti ldaiyo se sirf tension create hoti h jo sahi nhi h, kisi b caste me janm lena kisi k hath me nhi h bt jaha tk m janta hu us area ke 2 thakur boyz mere colg me hi h n they love gujars nd hv no bed feelings for gujjars but ye choti moti bate galatfahmi create kr deti h n usse kisi ko kuch nhi milta sivay nafrat k...v gujjars shud love all..either thakur, jats..all r gud ,may b there some exceptions in each caste.all of us hv some gud friends from thakurs n jats n yadavs definitely,my favo teacher is a Jat so hw can i abuse all jats...v kno gujjars respect guru.
i don't kno y u NCR gujjar bros say such words for mayawati, she is a politician she only viewing her benifit. usne jo is case me thakuro k sath kiya same wo hi kisi b thakur dominated area me gujjars k sath kregi. ya ye hi jhgda gujjars n harijans k beech me hota to m sure k waha uska diff behaviour hota. dist saharanpur n muzaffarnagar me yahi mayawati gujjaro k jee ka janjal bani hui h..dist gautam budh nagar is totally dominated by gujjars then iska name gautambudh nagar kyu rkha usne... ?? samrat mihirbhoj nagar kyu nhi.. so v shud not play in the hands of these cheap politicians.
and most imp bat k agar hume progress krni h to miljul k hi aage bdhna chahiye. no dought jats r doing good in sports..v proud on sushil kumar..he is a simple person with great will power..and from an average family..ye isiliye possible hua h ki jats r working hard they have many akhadas, shooting ranges and all. they r providing standard education to their kids. but hum gujjars ya to aapas me tang khichaiyi krte rhenge ya chote mote jhgdo me time and paisa barbad krte h. offcourse gujjars r rich in NCR but mostely guys r involved in property dealing and construction etc. they r lacking professionalism.and many of them have vasted their money nw even they don't hv land. so in some respect i think dist meerut ,saharnpur and muzaffarnagar r better they r preserving thier villages and land most of them r rich farmer with side busnises like transport etc in NCR v cant recognise where is our gujjar village and where is city,and villages r getting affected by cities culture very fast. so v shud think atleast once deeply abt anything abt our great community.

[CHAUHAN]

here m nt saying to follow gandhi's theory of ahimsa but v shud understand the deepness of any thing first den shud take step..v hv to make us strong as no one can think to challenge us.

[gauravrousa]

BHAI sandeep...kafi achi baat likhi aapne...congrats,,!

pehli baat aap mujhe thoda ye batao ki jaise according to u hamari jo jameen(land) kisi na kisi authority ne accquire kar li like noida,greater noida,delhi,faridabad,gurgoan,ghazaibad etc....aur apake area mai abhi bhi zameen(land)kafi h ,,aur koi koi khass development bhi nhi hua na koi bade level par zammen ki jarurat pad gyi wanha,,,,

aapka kuch aisa kehna tha ki , where is our village,where is our city just like that''

bhai kya kisi jagah ki taraaki ho jane se uska naam map se gayab ho jata h ....aaj bhi delhi mai kalka garhi h ,aaj bhi zamradpur gaon h ,aaj bhi mehrauuli goan h ,ya noida k atta peer,barolla,harolla,greater noida ka tugalpur pari chowk,,..kya ye sab kanhi chale gaye,,ya yanha ke gujjar delhi -ncr k road par aa gye kyo ki jaisa aapka kehna h ki unke pass zammen nhi h aur hamare yanha saharanpur aur mazzafarnagr mai kafi zammen h
balki k yanha k logo ko naye naye raozgaar,business,,forward castes ko dekh kar ye socha ki ye log kaise advance h hum kyu nhi,,kya kammi h hum logo mai,,delhi -ncr k har reputed college mai aapko gujjar student mil jayenge jo ki aaj se 7=8 saal pehle nhi the,,unki soch bhi develop ho rahi ,apne aas pass business minded caste ko dekh kar,,,
aapne shayad NDTV ka special programme nhi dekha ravish ki report at 10 july 2010
sirf ek gali ke antar par 2 duniya h ek modern delhi ki aur doosra wahi gujjar thinking,culture,dressing etc

kitne,,baniya ,punjabi,aur sindhi k forefathers ,,unhe zammen de kar gaye the,,kya wo nhi jee rahe is delhi mai...aur shayad gujjoro se jada advance bhi h ....

bhai aaj sirf sports mai faltu medal lane ko hi nhi development kehte h ...haan Jat caste sports mai bohot aage h ye swikar karna chaiye,,,
lekin ye log humse h the bhi 30 saal advance...abb ek raat mai toh ,,aage nhi bad sakte h ..tym toh chaiye...
Ajj india ka gladrags gujjar h ,ahran choudhary form village nayagoan basantpur,grand son gujjar leader ram chandra vikal...DU k president gujjar h jab ki jaat hamse se jada h DU mai..
mr delhi bodybuilding mai gujjar h a boy of ghitorni...
kuch saal pehle tak in sab posts par sirf Jat hi rehte the ya punjabi,
meerut mai Jat politics kitni havi rehti thi,,now they surrender....nuksaan kiska hua,,,Jat ka,,
sirf kehti karna hi sab kuch nhi h aaj,,,aaj ye haal h kisano ka ko wo apne bacho ki engineering aur medical k fees nhi bahar sakte,,as education is very costly today


koi jagah 10-20 saal tak ek jaise haal par nhi rehti..sansaar ka niyam hi h badlav.....
aap batao jaisa aapka gaon aaj se 10 saal pehle tha,,ya wanha ke log the ,,kya wanha change nhi aaya ya wanha k logo ki socha nhi badli.
aur ek baat aur dhayan rakhna,,,hamesha is duniya mai jo caste ya society goverment k saath chale gi aur current politics mai active rehagi..sirf wo hi aage bad sakti h ..
100 saal pehle hamare gujjar..britisher se alag rahe aur vidroh kiya... as we can do compromise like other caste..
isliye hum backward reh gaye...

jaat us tym ki saarkar k sath rahe..so unhone hamse jada development kiya..kyu ki wo hi panap sakta h jo sarkar k sath kadam mila kar chalaye

aaj unki politics active nhi h west up mai ,isliye wo aaj nhi chamak paye,,,jaise wo charan singh k tym par... ye ajeet singh ki joint government mai rehte the,,,

aur agar aap log mayawati ko ek cheap politician mante ho...fir aapke yanha 2 gujjar MLA ko kyu BSP k sath ki jarurat pad gyi..mahipal majra aur manoj chaudhary ko,aur kyu logo ne vote di BSP ko

aur aap mujhe ek example wo jarror dena ki maywati ne thakur dominated area mai gujjar caste ko niche ,dikhaya hoga..as u claim...

Madhya pradesh k MLA k election mai aidel singh kasana ko scindiya ne congress se ticket dene ko mana kar diya,,aur wanha BJP gurjars ki ginti kanhi karti nhi h ,as its all dominated by pandits,and rajpoots,
sirf ek mayawati hi thi jisne AS kansana(a transport tycoon of mp) ko ticket bhi diya aur unka carrier dobne se bacha diya ,,,
jab 2 main paryty ticket hi na de kisi ko ,,fir koi apni rajneti kaise chalye,,
AS kasana ne election jitne k baad ,,digvijay singh k sath jo ki anti scindiya group h ,,aur mantri ban gaye,,
delhi k MLA ram singh neta ji k sath bhi kuch aisa hi hua tha
aaj wo MLA sirf bsp k wajah se h

[CHAUHAN]

Gaurav bhai, phli bat ye k mera statement particularly mayavati k bare me nhi tha..its abt all politicians, usne vaha thakuro aur gujjaro k case me jo b kiya wo isliye nhi kiya ki use gujjaro se kuch khas lagav h blki wo isliye ki isime BSP ka b fayda tha..bt humare gujjar bhai itne nadan h k ise mayawati ka pyar samajh rhe h aur aur thakur ko dushman karar de diya h. bhai gaurav ye btao k ye kon janta h k agli govt kiski hogi ye to hr 5 sal bad bdlni h bt us area me gujjars n thakurs kai so salo se sath rh rhe h aur agar humne unke 5 members ko peet diya aur humai FIR lodge nhi hui BSP govt ki vajah se..to mujhe nhi lgta k ye koi bahut shan ki bat h ya isme kuch garv krne jaisa h. m ye nhi kah rha k mayawati kharab h ya mulayam singh kharab h but kahne ka mtlb ye h ki ye politicians wahi krte h jisme inka fayda hota h. hume ldane me hi unka fayda h.ab aapko wo example b de du jo aap bol rhe the k thakur dominated area wala... saharanpur halaki thakur dominated area b nhi h gujjar dominated h n dusre num pe thakurs h waha MP jagdish rana (BSP) h jo thakur h,, aap suppose kro agr vaha aisa hi kuch case ho jae to btao waha kya situation ulti nhi ho jaegi......! ya muzaffarnagar ka example le lo waha kadir rana (BSP) h...ya barabnki, bareily ya raibraily side chle jao vaha gujjars minority me h waha b BSP k MP n MLAs h waha socho kiski fir lodge hone degi mayawati. n aap cheap politicians ki bat kr rhe h.. mujhe nhi pta aapke kya views h bhai bt in my view mayawati is the cheapest politician,,sbse gndi rajniti h uski,,isne jitna castism ko jitna spread kiya h utna koi nhi kr paya. hr caste ki alag commety bna di h usne,,saini samaj,joggi samaj ye samaj wo samaj,, kbi kbi insan jb indipendent hoke sochta h tb ye bat realise hoti h k ye politicians is desh ko kis direction me le ja rhe h...bhai dusri bat ye k aapko ye b pta hoga k abhi b UP k 90% gujjars farming se hi jude hue h..and mayawati's policies r the biggest enimies of farmers..kuch time phle tk yahi mayawati gujjaro k sakht khilaf rha krti thi n bahut se gujjaro ko BSP sirf isiliye chodni pdi thi kyoki ye meetings me gujjar leaders ko neecha dikhane se baaz nhi aati thi...ab use gujjaro me fayda dikhai de rha h to unhe pyar dikha rhi h east me pandito k sath yahi kr hi h.
bhai m kahna chahta hu k hume leaders ki mentality ko samjhna chahiye aur khud ko use nhi hone dena chahiye jaha jisme fayda ho usko support kro...chahe SP ko support kro chahe BSP ko kro chahe congress ko ya BJP ko but kisi ko ye nhi lgna chahiye k gujjar is paty ka vote bank h vrna tbi wo party humari bhlai k bare me sochna chod degi n use krna start kr degi.aur hum acchi jagah acchi voting krenge tbi parties ki nazro me humari votes ki importance bnegi. is bat ko samjhne k liye bahut dimag ki jarurat nhi h k mayawati ne AS kasana ko BSP ko ticket kyo diya isme kasana se jyada to mayawati ka hi fayda tha na..ha fayda beshak gujjar samaj ko b hua ye khushi ki bat h k humara ek MP bdha h but yaha se ye galatfahmi nhi honi chahiye k gujjars ki pawah sirf mayawati ne ki h..yahi mayawati bahut jagho pe gujjars k ticket kat k dusri community ko deti h.same bat mahipal majra n manoj chaudhry pe lagu hoti h..m ne nhi kaha k BSP ko vote mt kro jaha jisme fyda ho support krna chahiye n aap bol rhe h k logo ne vote kyu di...bhai gujjar hain to vote gujjar ko hi deni pdegi thakur ko thoda hi de denge chahe kisi b party se ho.

[CHAUHAN]

Gaurav bhai phle m aapko bta du m saharanpur ya muzaffarnagar se nhi hu m from dist haridwar,ha saharanpur humare kafi pas h. aapne kaha ki saharanpur me koi khas development b nhi hua....aazadi k bad sbse phle smbhlne wale gujjar saharanpur k hi the ye sbhi ko pta h. sbse phle gujjar history likhne wale shri Yatindra panwar(vill panhasu, pargana rampur maniharan,)..aur abhi b hm puri west up me sbse khushal unihko mante h..aap waha k kisi b gaon me jao they all r doing great..in all field.no dought they r in strong position.
n bhai i kno NCRs gujjars r growing very fast n ye bahut khushi ki bat h. i kno k 7 ya 8 sal phle tk jin colleges me gujjar student nhi the waha ab kafi gujjars h its a good sign bro. n m ne wo NDTV wala progam dekha to nhi tha but ha pdha tha yahi pe uske bare me wo intresting tha. n bhai m ne ye b nhi kaha k sirf kheti hi kro..mera mtlb ye h ki gujjar bhai agar apni jameene de rhe h to unhe is money ko sahi jagah invest krna chahiye..bhai aap b jante h n m khud aise bahut se examples de skta hu muavje k paise ka misuse n then apna b future khrab n aane wali pidhi ka b.
apne sahi kaha bhai k sansar ka niyam h bdlav ha mera gaon b kafi badal gaya h offcourse.. n delhi k gujjaro me b bahut bdlav aaya h n its very gud that gujjars r preserving their culture in delhi villages.sbse imp yahi h bhai devlopment agar culture ki cost pe ho to kya fayda fir.
thanxx